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专注 AI 光通信与半导体供应链研究，擅长从产业链与公司基本面寻找高赔率机会。长期跟踪 CPO 与光模块产业链，持续输出 SIVE、AAOI、LITE、POET 等标的的深度观点。
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- English · 原文Lot of misinterpretations flying left and right around the $600m ATM. I'm still bullish on $AAOI and I have large positions (which is why I care more). What I've been consistent with is not being a fan of overusing ATMs/dilution for financing. I've said this before with $IREN + $POET. And I'll be consistent with my own positions like AOI. However, the reason I'm still overweight on AOI vs. the rest (looking at you Poet): Is that AOI is actually capacity constrained with high demand visibility. In terms of timing: - AOI should have waited until completion of 1.6T qualifications (expected in the next few weeks) - Could have used other structures like convertible notes above market prices. But they did it on the drop from $220 -> $130, and it's likely there will be short term structural overhang whenever they want to tap into it. I don't have to support every single business decision to remain long.中文 · 翻译最近很多人对那个 6 亿美元的 ATM 计划有各种各样的误解。我依然看好 $AAOI，而且我持有大量仓位（这也是我更关注的原因）。 我一直以来的立场是，我不喜欢过度使用 ATM / 稀释股权来融资。之前在 $IREN 和 $POET 的事情上我也说过。 对我自己持有的仓位，比如 AOI，我也会保持一致的看法。 不过，我仍然超配 AOI 的原因，而不是其他（比如 Poet）： 是因为 AOI 确实产能受限，而且需求可见度很高。 在时机方面： - AOI 本应该等到 1.6T 资格认证完成（预计未来几周） - 可以使用其他结构，比如高于市场价的可转债。 但他们却在股价从 220 美元跌到 130 美元的时候做了这件事，而且很可能每次他们想要动用这笔资金时，都会带来短期的结构性抛压。 我不需要支持每一个商业决策，才能继续做多。
- English · 原文$NBIS outlook is pretty insane yet again. $582.3M revenue (+454% Y/Y, +46% Q/Q) off ~50% adjusted EBITDA margin (AI Cloud). $8.04B cash on hand. Reiterates financial guide (2026 revenue: $3.0–$3.4B 2026 EoY ARR: $7–$9B), I was hoping for a raise, but it's already massive growth. Not really about this quarter financials, but these signals: - "We could sell our entire 2027 capacity on these terms today." massive visibility on demand - "4 customer agreements averaging over $1B+ each in contract value" - Around 70% of Q2 deals included customer prepayments - Contracted power guidance was raised again, from more ~4+ GW to 5 GW. (this used to be a concern vs. $IREN debate, but Nebius power guidance keeps going through the roof). - Expects $9B+ of prepayments in 2026 and says it has $40B+ of commitments. - annual contract value per MW keeps going brrr (>$40M/mw for Q3 short term capacity deals) Same bear story will always be there (eg. large $5.66B of capex with current GAAP net loss), but demand is extreme with massive visibility, with increasing AI Cloud adjusted EBITDA margins ( 24% -> 45% -> 50% progression) We kinda got this read through from all your hyperscaler cloud earnings and $CRWV backlog yesterday, but glad it's showing up in Weebius's earnings.中文 · 翻译$NBIS 的展望又一次相当炸裂。 营收 $5.823 亿（同比增长 454%，环比增长 46%），其中 AI 云业务的调整后 EBITDA 利润率接近 50%。手头现金 $80.4 亿。 公司重申了财务指引（2026 年营收：$3
- English · 原文Woah, $RIOT announced a $9.1B deal with Anthropic, with a possible contract extending to $16.1B, over 20Y. $AMD also exercised its option to expand its existing deal with Riot. (And they still have another 1 GW campus they have LOI with for a tenant) In terms of timelines, seem like most of the Colo basket have their revenue inflections hit H2 2027? (Eg. Riot Anthropic deal targets Dec 2027 for first 96 MW, AMD full 50 MW - May 2027) It’s cute to see all the former miners like $IREN and co. grow up.中文 · 翻译哇哦，$RIOT 宣布与 Anthropic 达成一项 91 亿美元的交易，这份合同可能在 20 年内延长至 161 亿美元。 $AMD 也行使了期权，扩大了与 Riot 现有的合作。（而且他们还有另一个 1 吉瓦的园区，已经跟一个租户签了意向书 LOI） 从时间线来看，看起来大部分 Colo（托管）业务的营收拐点都会在 2027 年下半年出现？ （比如，Riot 和 Anthropic 的交易目标是到 2027 年 12 月，首批 96 兆瓦完成；AMD 的 50 兆瓦项目则是在 2027 年 5 月） 看到那些像 $IREN 等前矿企和其他公司一起“长大成人”，感觉挺有意思的。
- English · 原文Situational Awareness / Leopold was completely right in terms of US shifting more toward inference + large energy demand. I had a similar thesis with Neoclouds like $IREN, $NBIS, $CIFR, $WULF, and others last year in 2025. But shifted more towards upstream bottlenecks + networking personally. It's just a little unfortunate the fund couldn't fully survive the drawdown. We did overlap in memory concentration but energy/grid from $BE, $TE, or neoclouds like $SHAZ / $IREN but I'd expect them to outperform given compute/capacity shortages.中文 · 翻译态势感知：Leopold 说得完全对，美国正更多地转向推理，而且能源需求巨大。 我去年在 2025 年也对 Neoclouds 有类似的看法，比如 $IREN、$NBIS、$CIFR、$WULF 等。 但我个人更多转向了上游瓶颈和网络。只是有点遗憾，基金没能完全挺过那次回撤。 我们在内存集中度上确实有重叠，不过像 $BE、$TE 这样的能源/电网股，或者像 $SHAZ / $IREN 这样的 Neocl
- English · 原文@SammyJ51 Kenneth will need to do some magic to liquidate me of my 1 $IREN share.中文 · 翻译@SammyJ51 Kenneth 得施展点魔法，才能把我的 1 股 $IREN 给清掉。
- English · 原文Did Citadel really just liquidate Situational Awareness… Then brought up entire markets the next day? $NBIS +26.25% $IREN +25.96% $SHAZ +22.82% $SNDK + 23.98% $BE +23.67% $SKHY +16.98% $INTC +12.16% Amid many others. This has gotta be one of the wildest liquidations I’ve seen.中文 · 翻译Citadel 刚刚真的清盘了 Situational Awareness… 然后第二天就把整个大盘拉起来了？ $NBIS +26.25% $IREN +25.96% $SHAZ +22.82% $SNDK + 23.98% $BE +23.67% $SKHY +16.98% $INTC +12.16% 还有好多其他股票。这绝对是我见过最疯狂的清盘之一。
- English · 原文Just some takeaways from $META | $MSFT earnings calls: Microsoft: - Expected to be FCF positive in 2027, despite the increase in capex (extremely positive for AI buildout that it's funded by operating income) - "Free cash flow was $19.6 billion, reflecting higher capital expenditures" - Quartely capex was $41B, roughly 2/3rds were "short lived assets, primarily CPUs and GPUs" - Expects capex spend will be over $50 billion for next quarter - Capex Guidance at ~$175 billion and 2027 capex roughly the same. Spending plans unchanged and in line. - "Extending the estimated useful life of our data centers from 15 to 25 years" - "We will be among the first cloud providers to deploy next generation rack-scale AI infrastructure based on $AMD Helios and $NVDA Vera Rubin" - "Customer demand continues to exceed available capacity" Meta: - Capex $130-$145 billion (narrowed range), from $125B-$145B. - Meta is receiving offers at a "significant premium" to what they paid for it (compute scarcity, positive for neoclouds like $IREN / $NBIS ) - Expects significant portion of compute (like the 1 GW DC in El Paso) to develop internal models. - Meta has multiple ROI-positive uses for additional compute across its core business (internally, not Meta Compute) - "Finally, we believe that overall industry capacity is going to remain tight for the foreseeable future" - "The industry has under-built historically for the wave of AI adoption, making existing capacity, including our own, extremely valuable" - Susan Li TLDR: - $MSFT and $GOOGL largely sustaining AI capex buildout while remaining FCF positive or through operating incomes. - $META flags available compute materially below demand at least through 2027. And $MSFT also flags compute demand far exceeds supply. - All three hyperscaler capex largely in line with Google hiking capex figures. AI selloff seems extremely overblown now, hyperscalers continuing capex in line (with Microsoft being FCF positive) or even hiked with $GOOGL. Compute scarcity is visible throughout every single hyperscaler ER.中文 · 翻译简单总结一下 $META 和 $MSFT 财报电话会的几点收获： 微软： - 预计到2027年自由现金流（FCF）转正，尽管资本支出（capex）在增加（这对于AI基础设施建设是天大的利好，因为它的资金来源是运营收入） - “自由现金流为19
- English · 原文To show solidarity with the $IREN holders: I now own 1 share of IREN.中文 · 翻译为了声援 $IREN 的持有者们： 我现在持有一股 IREN。
- English · 原文Memory names from Kioxia finished up a whopping +17.18%. Samsung up +6.15%. Optical networking from $SIVE, $LITE, and $AAOI are showing signs of recovery, all up 4%+. Neoclouds from $NBIS to $IREN all up 4%+ premarket. $INTC to $AMD to $MRVL all up 4%+. Does the Cramer effect work on the entire AI trade?中文 · 翻译铠侠系的存储股今天猛涨了17.18%。三星也涨了6.15%。 $SIVE、$LITE 和 $AAOI 这些光网络股都在展现复苏迹象，全部涨了4%以上。 从 $NBIS 到 $IREN 的 Neoclouds 概念股，盘前全部涨了4%以上。 从 $INTC 到 $AMD 再到 $MRVL，这些股都涨了4%以上。 难道克拉默效应要对整个AI概念股都起作用了吗？
- English · 原文$IREN +19.69% after revising ARR target to $4B+ from new AI cloud contracts. Its customer base now includes Microsoft, Nvidia, Perplexity, and Figure. $HUT +10.45% off a 15Y $9.8B AI DC lease $CIFR +16.76% $CLSK +13.7% $WYFI +9.18% $NBIS and $CRWV are taking their time in the shower. But does look like Neoclouds/Colo players are sharply recovering following new catalysts, such as Kimi compute shortage news and new contracts.中文 · 翻译$IREN 涨了 19.69%，因为它将年度经常性收入 (ARR) 目标从新的 AI 云计算合同上调至 40 亿美元以上。现在它的客户群包括微软、英伟达、Perplexity 和 Figure。 $HUT 涨了 10.45%，这得益于它签署了一份为期 15 年、价值 98 亿美元的 AI 数据中心租赁协议。 $CIFR 涨了 16.76% $CLSK 涨了 13.7% $WYFI 涨了 9.18% 不过 $NBIS 和 $CRWV 还在磨蹭呢。 但看起来确实，新兴云服务/托管服务商 (Colo players) 们正在强劲复苏，这得益于 Kimi 算力短缺的消息和新合同等新的催化剂。
- English · 原文$META in talks to lease compute to Anthropic in a $10B dollar deal. Seems like they saw how profitable $SPCX $45B compute deal was. But just goes to validate Neocloud business models like $NBIS, $IREN, and co if hyperscalers are copying their homework. Source: NYT https://t.co/3Mu3UXQtFT中文 · 翻译$META 据说正在谈判，想把算力租给 Anthropic，这笔交易估计值 100 亿美元。 看来他们是看到 $SPCX 那笔 450 亿美元的算力租赁有多赚钱了。 不过这正好也验证了像 $NBIS、$IREN 还有其他这类新云业务模式的价值，毕竟连超大规模云服务商都在“抄作业”了。 来源：纽约时报 https://t.co/3Mu3UXQtFT
- English · 原文@LetsGoBflo17 I actually like $IREN fundamentally post Mirantis acquisition. Since it combines software orchestration with their existing secured GW capacity. But not hopping onboard personally unless they address executive stock based compensation and financing mechanics though.中文 · 翻译@LetsGoBflo17 说实话，Mirantis 收购后，我挺看好 $IREN 的基本面。因为它把软件编排跟他们现有的安全网关容量结合起来了。 不过，除非他们能解决高管股权激励和融资机制的问题，我个人暂时不会上车。
- English · 原文Imagine every single time you post. You have a TA bro posting a chart about: - b-but my $IREN ABC trend says it's going to $125 through the $6B ATM. - or if something drops, someone quote posts you saying "Should have listened to my $40 paywalled XYZ charts" Or if I post a new name they draw random swiggly lines any direction to convince people to sell, then try to sell a course on top of that that. They end up wrong, but just silently ignores that fact when they draw a new swiggly line the next day to sell if they're right.中文 · 翻译想想看，你每次发帖，都会有个技术分析（TA）老哥贴一张图，说： - 但、但是我的 $IREN ABC 趋势说它会通过 60 亿美元的 ATM 涨到 $125。 - 或者如果某个东西跌了，就会有人引用你的帖子说：“早该听我 40 美元付费 XYZ 图表的了。” 又或者我发一个新股票名字，他们就会画一堆随机的波浪线，想方设法说服大家卖掉，然后还想在这上面卖课。 结果他们错了，但第二天他们又画一条新的波浪线去卖的时候，就会默默地忽略这个事实，如果他们说对了，那又不一样了。
- English · 原文Leaked Anthropic docs show plans to secure 1.4GW capacity from Australia, amounting to ~$21.6B. Recently $IREN, $SHAZ, and other Neoclouds have been building sovereign DCs in Australia. Guess like a lot of things are stating to make more sense connection wise? (disclosure: no open positions in any of the above).中文 · 翻译泄露的 Anthropic 文件显示，他们计划从澳大利亚获得 1.4GW 的容量，总计约 216 亿美元。 最近，$IREN、$SHAZ 和其他 Neocloud 公司一直在澳大利亚建设主权数据中心。 感觉很多事情之间的关联性开始说得通了？ (披露：对以上任何公司都没有持仓)。
- English · 原文@mazo7846 I actually think $IREN has potential after their Mirantis acquisition + capacity they have. It’s just the way they do things with ATMs and excessive SBCs makes it hard to be bullish on just from financing structures.中文 · 翻译@mazo7846 我其实觉得 $IREN 在收购 Mirantis 之后，加上他们现有产能，还是有潜力的。 只是他们通过 ATM（按市值发售）和过度的股权激励（SBC）来融资的方式，让人很难从其融资结构角度看好。
- English · 原文OFC I'm aware. But I'm personally sleeping comfortably since I have conviction in my hyperscaler mapping research with $SIVE. And yes, I still have my million+ share position. Not sure if people realize this: but I'm only here to share my thoughts/ideas. I don't control market volatility, what decisions you all make, or how markets react to new information synthesis. It's much safer for analysts to just reactively tag along Morgan Stanley/JP Morgan/Goldman Sachs research whenever it's created and just summarize. Rather than coming up with new ideas from OSINT mapping and waiting them get validated. Because when you discover a new angle: Everyone keeps heatedly debating topics of 4-6 inch InP fabs, employee count, who their hyperscaler customers are, volume ramp timelines, etc to try and play devils advocate with a thesis. Then actively monitoring every single 5-20% price movement. I'm forced to stay on this topic more since it's less validated + there's always heated discussions. Just like $EWY in Feb, which I did memory projections on + Helium/LNG/Oil analysis. But months later everyone sees memory looks structural with Micron's 16+ LTAs and LNG isn't taking down SK Hynix margins. Or $NBIS from last year in terms of sum-of-parts / dilution structures vs $IREN. And now it's close to ATHs and listed on $QQQ. I'm personally just waiting Sivers to volume ramp in 2027 + listing on NASDAQ to support their M&A efforts. So they can walk down the same path as $LITE when they scaled from $3B to $60B+.中文 · 翻译我当然知道。但我个人睡得挺安稳，因为我对自己的超大规模数据中心映射研究有底气，而且持有 $SIVE。 没错，我还是拿着那一百多万股的头寸。 不知道大家有没有意识到：我来这里就是分享我的想法和观点。 我控制不了市场波动，也管不了你们怎么做决定，更左右不了市场对新信息整合的反应。 对分析师来说，最安全的做法就是摩根士丹利/摩根大通/高盛一出报告就跟着附和，然后总结一下。 而不是自己从开源情报（OSINT）映射里琢磨新想法，再等它们被验证。 因为当你发现一个新角度时： 每个人都在激烈争论 4-6 英寸磷化铟晶圆厂、员工数量、他们的超大规模客户是谁、产能爬坡时间线等等，就为了跟你唱反调。 然后还要时刻盯着每一个 5%-20% 的价格波动。 我不得不更频繁地讨论这个标的，因为它还没被充分验证，而且总是有激烈的争论。就像 2 月的 $EWY，我当时做了内存预测，还分析了氦气/液化天然气/石油。 但几个月后，大家看到内存结构变得稳固（美光签了 16 份以上的长期协议），液化天然气也没把 SK 海力士的利润打下来。 还有去年的 $NBIS，当时在谈分部估值/摊薄结构 vs $IREN。 现在它接近历史新高，还进了 $QQQ 指数。 我本人只是在等 Sivers 在 2027 年产能爬坡，并在纳斯达克上市来支持他们的并购活动。 这样他们就能走 $LITE 当年的路——从 30 亿美元市值涨到 600 亿美元以上。
- English · 原文@JJJJJ_66666 Because I’m comparing thesis timeframes when I said $IREN was dogsht after endless dilution and a GPU pivot from Colo. I had $IREN last year and sold it for $NBIS and others. Turns out that was the correct idea, but IREN bagholders can’t admit it中文 · 翻译@JJJJJ_66666 因为我是在比较不同论据的时间框架，我当时说 $IREN 在无休止的稀释和从 Colo 转向 GPU 之后就是个垃圾货。 我去年持有过 $IREN，然后卖掉换成了 $NBIS 和其他标的。 事实证明那是对的，但 $IREN 的接盘侠们就是不肯承认。
- English · 原文@Starter9191 Yeah not looking much better last year either for $IREN. When everyone kept trying to trash talk $NBIS that ended up compounding another 3-4x. https://t.co/QDz5RqYoEv中文 · 翻译@Starter9191 是啊，去年 $IREN 的状况也好不到哪儿去。 当每个人都一个劲地唱衰 $NBIS 的时候，人家又涨了 3-4 倍。https://t.co/QDz5RqYoEv
- English · 原文I wonder how it feels to miss out on the AI supercycle run… With photonics, memory, and even Neoclouds like $NBIS. Because you’re busy bagholding into the endless $6,000,000,000 active ATMs with $IREN. https://t.co/AFEr84Dezd中文 · 翻译真好奇错过 AI 超级周期行情是什么感觉…… 光子学、存储、 还有像 $NBIS 这样的 Neocloud， 因为你忙着在那儿死扛 $IREN 那一个个永不枯竭的 60 亿美元自动取款机呢。https://t.co/AFEr84Dezd
- English · 原文And 7 months later... $NBIS is all time highs. While $IREN bagholders are still funding the $6,000,000,000 ATM and stuck at the same price back in November. Guess this settles the debate? https://t.co/wYvbhw4xK3中文 · 翻译7 个月后…… $NBIS 创了历史新高。 而 $IREN 的接盘侠们还在给那个 60 亿美元的 ATM 融资计划输血，股价还卡在去年 11 月的老位置。 猜猜这算不算把争论给结了？https://t.co/wYvbhw4xK3
- English · 原文@hoarderresearch yep, trying my best! Always a fun time to get anonymous threats of violence when i post about $IREN excessive ATMs from time to time.中文 · 翻译@hoarderresearch 是啊，我尽力了！每次我偶尔发帖说 $IREN 过度搞 ATM 增发，就会收到匿名暴力威胁，真是够好玩的。
- English · 原文I’ve written a thesis on these 3 themes early on: Neoclouds, Photonics, and Memory. Now, it’s fun to sit back and watch all my thesis ideas play out from $AAOI to $EWY to $NBIS. Even got my warnings right too, $IREN is still stagnant due to the $6B of constant selling pressure from the ATM, while $NBIS reaches ATHs. But the bagholders still don’t want to admit it. Think a core part is knowing what theme comes next with markets, then comes picking the winner + heavy concentration in them. If you went long on software and chose the ideal stock, you’d probably end up not as happy? Photonics is still probably the earliest out of the three. But I can see Nebius end up like AWS one day. And $MU / SK Hynix / Samsung potentially end up like a mini $NVDA if memory demand is structural.中文 · 翻译我早期写过一篇关于这三大主题的研报： Neoclouds、光子学和存储。 现在，坐下来看着我从 $AAOI 到 $EWY 再到 $NBIS 的所有主题构想一一兑现，还挺有意思的。 连我的警告也说中了，$IREN 还在原地踏步，因为 ATM 抽了 60 亿美元的持续抛压，而 $NBIS 却一路新高。 但那些接盘的还不肯承认。 我觉得关键部分是知道市场下一步的主题是什么，然后挑出赢家 + 重仓押注。 要是你押注软件股，选了理想的标的，最后可能未必多开心？ 光子学在这三个里面，大概还是最早期的一个。 但我能看到 Nebius 有一天会像 AWS 那样。 而 $MU / SK Hynix / Samsung 如果存储需求是结构性的，没准能变成迷你版的 $NVDA。
- English · 原文This is gonna upset a lot of people: But TA is astrology for traders. It's confirmation bias + trading human psychology about entries. Kinda like how people frontran $SPCE from $SPCX IPO expecting retail to mess up tickers by trading psychology. $SIVE didn't go up 1900% because of the golden cross space comet firebreathing dragon candle that someone is trying to sell for $499. It's because markets are pricing in future revenue from $JBL, $GFS that got announced. $AXTI didn't go up 8000% because the golden waterfall candle alert sounded back at $8. it's because of InP substrate, game theory on ASP hikes, export controls, photonics demand, and others. If you want to figure out psychologically what other regards are believing, you use TA. But for determining the actual upside... nah People have been drawing $120+ TAs on $IREN for the past idk how many months none of that crap matters when there's a $6B ATM that needs to be bought through first. It's by theme (eg. $LITE to $AAOI relations), any news catalysts that affect forward revenue, projections, macro news, earnings, float dynamics, and so on. Then you can just derive what MC that company should be at. So for entry points, sure you can use TA. For determining where the stock heads, just throw the tyrannosaurs rex omega-green candle indicator out the window.中文 · 翻译这肯定要让很多人不高兴了： 但技术分析（TA）对交易者来说，就是占星术。 它就是个确认偏误，再加上利用人们入场交易时的心理。 有点像当初人们在 $SPCX IPO 时抢跑 $SPCE，就是料到散户会因为交易心理搞混股票代码。 $SIVE 涨了
- English · 原文@bjjkkcjnx @vianebinance There's slander over in the US too! If you try criticizing $IREN or $BKKT you have a bunch of bots/influencers coming after you. Jealously/lies is a worldwide phenomenon when you gain popularity.中文 · 翻译@bjjkkcjnx @vianebinance 美国那边也一样有人在恶意抹黑！你要是敢批评 $IREN 或者 $BKKT，立马就会有一堆机器人和网红跑来围攻你。 嫉妒和谎言是全球性的现象，一旦你火了就是这德性。
- English · 原文Not all dilution is bad and depends on what structure. If you're doing a $600m ATM to build out laser fab capacity with $AAOI for $471m / month H1 2027 (at lower MC ranges), then that's accretive. If you're diluting 15% for NASDAQ listing requirements with $SIVE, and using proceeds for M&A, that's accretive. If you're diluting with $IQE and doing private placements with $MTSI to wipe off old toxic debt, that's accretive. If you're diluting $6,000,000,000 with $IREN, and likely selling that into the open market on every rally off the backs of $SLNH / $BKKT shills where majority of those retail went to 0, then that's predatory.中文 · 翻译不是所有稀释都是坏事，关键看结构。 如果你是在做一笔 $6 亿的 ATM 融资，用来建激光器晶圆产能，在 2027 年上半年每个月 4.71 亿美元（较低市值区间）的节奏下跟 $AAOI 合作，那这就是增厚型的。 如果你是为了满足纳斯达克上市要求，用 $SIVE 稀释 15%，然后把募集资金拿去做并购，那也是增厚型的。 如果你跟 $IQE 一起稀释，通过跟 $MTSI 做私募来清掉过去的有毒债务，那也是增厚型的。 但如果你是像 $IREN 那样，一次稀释 $60 亿，然后大概率趁 $SLNH / $BKKT 的托们每次拉升时把这些股抛到公开市场上——而这些小散里多数最后都归零了——那这就是掠夺性的。
- English · 原文Sure, #1 thing is toxic financing structure/float dynamics. Best example is current Neoclouds landscape: - $IREN is basically trash, since they have $6,000,000,000 ATMs and virtually infinite dilution, likely selling into every rally (structural overhang) - While $NBIS is now YTD 153%+, from optimal structures (eg. $NVDA direct funding, mix of convertibles, etc.). - On the other hand, $CRWV has endless debt interest given they took out high interest rate loans to finance GPUs. It's extremely nuanced, but you need to take a look at the float dynamics. If they're legitimately a good company, then it might be a good idea to go long after all the existing holders get diluted to oblivion. But if you care about your equity appreciation, it's a good idea to stay far away from toxic financing structures or toxic overhang (eg. debt interest, that eats away at a company FCF long term) With smaller companies, they have this all the time, like $SLNH, where there's new $500m ATMs on a $250m MC. Or like $BKKT where there's endless dilution to fund executive pay. With these companies you're basically transferring your money over to the company while influencers talk about them. So those are red flags. With many software names like $SNAP, they mask stock-based compensation with profitability. So while the company optically looks profitable, you'll likely see the value of your equity decrease due to dilution. There's endless types of these share structures you need to look when screening ideas.中文 · 翻译当然，第一重要的是毒性融资结构 / 流通股动态。 最好的例子就是当前的新一代云服务商格局： - $IREN 基本就是垃圾，因为他们有 60 亿美元的 ATM 增发额度，几乎无限稀释，大概率每次反弹都在卖（结构性压制） - 而 $NBIS 今年至今已经涨了 153%+，靠的是最优结构（比如 $NVDA 直接投资、混搭可转债等）。 - 另一方面，$CRWV 因为用高利率贷款买 GPU，背负着无尽的债务利息。 这事非常微妙，但你必须关注流通股的动态。 如果这家公司确实质地不错，那等现有持有人被稀释到快没了之后，或许是个做多的好时机。 但如果你在意自己股权的增值，就最好离这种毒性融资结构或毒性压制（比如债务利息长期蚕食公司自由现金流）远远的。 小公司里这种情况比比皆是，比如 $SLNH，市值才 2.5 亿美元，却搞了个新的 5 亿美元 ATM 增发。 或者像 $BKKT，为了给高管发工资搞了没完没了的稀释。 这类公司，基本上就是 KOL 们在吹的时候，你把钱转给了公司。所以这些都是红旗。 很多软件股，比如 $SNAP，会用盈利数据来掩盖股权激励。所以虽然公司账面看着是赚钱的，但你的股权价值很可能因为稀释而缩水。 筛选标的时，这类股权结构无穷无尽，你必须仔细看。
- English · 原文@BKCY314 Financing structure is much different, $CRWV is getting eaten alive by debt interest. $IREN has little equity appreciation from excessive ATMs. $NBIS is just right, and have sum of parts from its subsidiaries from Avride + ownership of Clickhouse https://t.co/FkGn0XWrdV中文 · 翻译@BKCY314 融资结构完全不同，$CRWV 被债务利息吃掉了。 $IREN 因为过量 ATM 融资，几乎没有权益增值。 $NBIS 就刚好到位，而且还有旗下子公司 Avride 加上 Clickhouse 持股的综合价值。 https://t.co/FkGn0XWrdV
- English · 原文Fun to see my highest conviction Neocloud pick in $NBIS age well. I wrote a thesis last year on the Neocloud sector becoming a major theme. And then picked the King. -> Nebius is #1 out of the entire sector from $IREN to $CRWV. $84 -> $260. Thesis validated by markets. https://t.co/RGOt3GSNjW中文 · 翻译有意思，看到我最有信心的 Neocloud 标的 $NBIS 越陈越香。 去年我写了一篇关于 Neocloud 板块将成为主要趋势的论点。 然后挑中了那个王者。 -> 从 $IREN 到 $CRWV，Nebius 是整个板块里表现最好的。 $84 → $260。 市场验证了这个观点。 https://t.co/RGOt3GSNjW
- English · 原文@Anon1pvi Not a fan of $CRWV, debt interest too high. As for $IREN, infinite ATMs structurally caps upside. $NBIS is the Goldilocks player in neoclouds.中文 · 翻译@Anon1pvi 不太看好 $CRWV，债务利息太高了。 至于 $IREN，无限 ATM 增发机制在结构上就限制了上行空间。 $NBIS 是新云领域里那个"刚刚好"的玩家。
- English · 原文Look who joined team $NBIS. 5.6% is a pretty massive stake, maybe he realized by now it’s miles better than the dumpster fire that is $IREN. That being said: Nebius is now up ~3x since I went long last year. Weebius has plot armor. https://t.co/JYZvf3GJND中文 · 翻译看看谁加入了 $NBIS 的阵营。 5.6% 的持股比例相当大了，可能他现在也意识到，这比那个一团糟的 $IREN 要好太多了。 话说回来：自从我去年做多以来，Nebius 现在涨了大约 3 倍。 Weebius 自带主角光环。https://t.co/JYZvf3GJND
- English · 原文??? $RDDT is literally lower IQ than $IREN investors? I didn't do all this research on $AXTI ... Just for you all to make 380% on it, call it a $MU memory competitor and then a scam? The lack of technical literacy is exactly why I got banned from there. https://t.co/sgrFTgcwfM中文 · 翻译??? $RDDT 的投资者智商真的比 $IREN 的还低吗？ 我做了那么多关于 $AXTI 的研究... 可不是为了让你们在它身上赚 380%，然后把它说成 $MU 的内存竞争对手，接着又说是骗局？ 技术素养的缺失，正是我被那边封禁的原因。https://t.co/sgrFTgcwfM
在其他光模块产业链标的上也有持续观点
IREN 之外，以下标的同样收录于其观点库：