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专注 AI 光通信与半导体供应链研究，擅长从产业链与公司基本面寻找高赔率机会。长期跟踪 CPO 与光模块产业链，持续输出 SIVE、AAOI、LITE、POET 等标的的深度观点。
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- English · 原文Lot of people were wondering about $SIVE earnings in 2 days. What I'm watching out for: 1. I'm hoping for more visibility on photonics co-development/qualifications/contracts. -> $AAOI stated multiple customers approaching them for CPO lasers (but had to turn them away) -> $MTSI stated many customers approaching them for CW capacity (but doesn't come online until H2 2027) So read through for a company serving as $GFS reference laser, $JBL for pluggables (ex. intel siph), to Ayar for CPO. And in a merchant position: -> with independent CW DFB supply (with Win semi) -> CPO-grade lasers. Is incredibly positive for more customers approaching Sivers. 2. Ongoing developments turning into volume -> I'm most excited about $JBL, which would probably be the main revenue ramp in H1 2027. -> $AEVA is likely much smaller in comparison, but should be a contributor H2 2026. -> Ayar and optical I/O players already stated 2028 for HVM, so not really expecting much there. -> Co-developments from their other pluggable players (from last ER) turning into qualifications -> volume). Aside from that: 3. NASDAQ listing -> We already got timelines for that "next few quarters", so it's not really a focus to narrow that down further. Always nice to get an update. 4. Financials -> Again, current financials aren't a focus for qualification-cycle players. Just a heads up, there's some one-time accounting this quarter, which affects things optically. Main thing is volume ramps for future quarters. -> revenue pipeline increase -> any early volume contracts signed Balance sheet concerns should be cleared now given their recent $70m fundraising + bootstrap dilution overhang gone. Bonus cookies: -> Any information about allocations secured "eg. we have substantial CW capacity secured -> would be extremely high signal given current shortages. -> Reiterate demand that AOI, Macom, Lumentum, Coherent stated. "eg. any capacity we get would be filled from demand" $AAOI had their massive $30 -> $220 rally after they stated like $471M expected capacity in 2027, and reiterated that into revenue guidance. (but then had a lot of ATMs) An ambitious bull case + full capacity revenue statement for future timelines like H1 2028 for Sivers would be nice, but not expected. A further re-rating would help for M&A with a Cloud Light type acquisition for revenue acceleration in future earnings. Obviously Sivers has other volume ramps, but I think photonics is what the market is primarily underwriting. Regardless, excited for what's up and coming.中文 · 翻译很多人都在好奇 $SIVE 两天后的财报。 我关注的点是： 1. 我希望光子学的共同开发/认证/合同方面能有更多明确信息。 → $AAOI 说有多个客户找他们要 CPO 激光器（但他们不得不拒绝了） → $MTSI 说有很多客户找他们要 CW 产能（但要
- English · 原文Good question, it's mainly third party commentary + actions around $SIVE. Ayar probably speaks volumes to me most removing $LITE / $MTSI from their supply chain section of their site. Then just featuring Sivers by itself for the laser suppliers. VP at Ayar also said Sivers was ... "essential to powering our optical I/O solution", which is pretty high signal commentary. Then you have $JBL that built a 1.6T LRO after selecting Sivers, which is very rare. And bragged about their technological moat at one of the fireside chats. Then $GFS choosing Sivers as the reference laser too and featuring them in their presentations... Feels like all your leading players are moving forward with Sivers for some reason? And I'd assume these leading companies did their DD中文 · 翻译问得好，主要还是围绕着 $SIVE 的第三方评论和实际行动。 Ayar 的举动对我来说最有说服力，他们把 $LITE 和 $MTSI 从官网的供应链版块移除了。然后在激光供应商那里只提了 Sivers 一家。 Ayar 的一位副总裁还说过，Sivers 对于“驱动我们的光 I/O 解决方案至关重要”，这可是个非常强劲的信号。 然后还有 $JBL，他们在选择 Sivers 之后，做了一个 1.6T LRO，这非常少见。还在一次炉边谈话中夸耀他们的技术护城河。 接着是 $GFS，他们也选择了 Sivers 作为参考激光，并且在他们的演示文稿中重点介绍了 Sivers… 感觉所有行业领先的公司都因为某种原因在推进与 Sivers 的合作？我猜这些领先公司都做了尽职调查的。
- English · 原文Not exactly, I think $AAOI stated they avoided LTAs so they wouldn't have too much capacity committed to one customer and have to turn away others. If they signed LTAs with prepayments, then that in scenario there probably wouldn't need to be such sizeable ATMs. Decision was a bit surprising though considering how well $NVDA LTAs turned out well for $LITE / $COHR. I would assume though AOI gets more pricing leverage as time goes on due to current laser/transceiver shortages.中文 · 翻译不完全是，我觉得 $AAOI 表示他们之所以避免签订长期供货协议（LTA），是为了不把太多产能绑定给一个客户，导致不得不拒绝其他客户。 如果他们签订了附带预付款的 LTA，那在这种情况下，可能就不需要那么大规模的 ATM 增发了。 不过这个决定还是有点出乎意料，考虑到 $NVDA 的 LTA 对 $LITE / $COHR 来说效果都很好。 不过我猜，由于目前激光器/收发器短缺，AOI 随着时间推移会获得更多定价权。
- English · 原文Very positive. My opinion is that the optical sector underperformance recently from $AAOI to $SIVE has been absurd. The demand visibility... is just way too stupidly high. AOI: “Even combined AOI, Coherent program altogether, is still very tough to meet the customer demand in the next 3 years” (2029) Elazr GM: "entire optical supply chain was facing major shortages." "The shortage will continue to the next few years" Sivers CEO said the same thing about InP laser demand imbalances expected for the next 3-5 years. Can go on and on about $LITE, $MTSI and other comments. We haven't even hit the inflection point with 1.6T, NPO, CPO scale out/up, and optics with memory (as seen with SK Hynix). Yet the industry is already bottlenecked by EML/CW and all your other upstream components from PDs/TIA/DSPs, transceivers, and soon FAU + others when CPO scales… I'm personally extremely comfortable watching this all play out, but just a little confused that markets don't know how to math a year or two ahead.中文 · 翻译非常看好。我的看法是，最近光模块板块，从 $AAOI 到 $SIVE，表现这么差简直离谱。 需求确定性... 简直高得吓人。 AOI 说：“即使把 AOI 和 Coherent 的项目加在一起，未来三年（到 2029 年）也还是很难满足客户需求。” (到 2029 年) Elazr 的总经理说：“整个光模块供应链都面临严重短缺。” “短缺将持续未来几年。” Sivers 的 CEO 也说了同样的话，关于 InP 激光器需求未来 3-5 年预计会供不应求。 关于 $LITE、$MTSI 和其他公司，可以说的评论还有很多。 我们甚至还没到 1.6T、NPO、CPO 的规模化放量，以及光模块与内存结合（比如 SK Hynix 做的那些）的拐点。 然而，这个行业就已经被 EML/CW，以及所有其他上游组件，从 PDs/TIA/DSPs 到收发器卡脖子了，随着 CPO 的规模化，FAU 和其他组件很快也会成为瓶颈… 我个人非常乐意看着这一切发生，但有点搞不懂市场为什么不会提前一两年算算账。
- English · 原文We got $LITE, $MTSI, $AAOI all pointing to extreme demand imbalances with lasers/TIA/DSP/etc from earnings... And now Elazr GM at their investor conference stated: Optical supply is still far behind the market demand, the expected AI optical supply chain are likely to continue for years. - "the entire supply chain is out of stock" - "the supply is still far behind the market demand" - "the shortage will continue to the next few years" "Whether it is PCB, carrier board, laser chip, or even related packaging capacity, as long as the AI supply chain link, almost all are in short supply." When demand visibility extends for years with the supply chain bottlenecked: It's getting difficult not to see photonics echoing the memory supercycle entering 2027.中文 · 翻译我们看到 $LITE, $MTSI, $AAOI 的财报都指向了激光器/TIA/DSP 等相关产品存在极度不平衡的需求状况... 现在 Elazr 的总经理在他们的投资者大会上表示： 光模块供应仍远低于市场需求，预计人工智能光模块供应链的紧张状况可能会持续数年。 — “整个供应链都处于缺货状态” — “供应仍远低于市场需求” — “短缺将持续到未来几年” “无论是PCB、载板、激光芯片，甚至是相关的封装产能，只要是人工智能供应链的环节，几乎都处于短缺状态。” 当需求可见性延长数年，同时供应链又面临瓶颈时： 很难不让人觉得光子学产业正在重演存储器行业的超级周期，并可能持续到2027年。
- English · 原文My $AAOI TLDR notes at Rosenblatt summit: - Expected to get paid premiums for US production of 800g/1.6T (very positive for ASP/margins). - Several LTAs on the table, but doesn't want to sign to get capacity blocked by other customers (cough cough $NVDA). - Sold out at least through second half of next year and beyond. (High demand visibility like $LITE) - Has 300-400 mW lasers already. - Expects margins to be above 40%+ once CPO comes about (probably most material for rerating). I can't see how anyone can be bearish on this company...中文 · 翻译我在 Rosenblatt 峰会上的 $AAOI 简报要点： - 预计美国生产的 800g/1.6T 产品能获得溢价（这对平均销售价格/利润率非常有利）。 - 有好几个长期供货协议（LTA）摆在眼前，但不想签，怕产能被其他客户占用（咳咳，$NVDA）。 - 订单已排满，至少到明年下半年甚至更久。（需求可见度很高，像 $LITE 一样） - 已经有 300-400 毫瓦的激光器了。 - 预计一旦 CPO 普及，利润率能超过 40%+（这可能是公司价值重估最重要的因素）。 真搞不懂谁会看空这家公司...
- English · 原文The AI semi theme is down if you look at $AVGO to $TSM. Higher beta names seem to have been hit the hardest. From trends I've seen with optical names, $LITE / $COHR recovered fastest, then larger still high beta names like $AAOI / $AXTI (halfway). Then your $SIVE / $POET type names have taken the longest. But I do see a sharper recovery when markets are more risk-on or when earnings forces re-ratings.中文 · 翻译从 $AVGO 到 $TSM 的走势来看，AI 半导体板块现在是下跌的。那些高贝塔值的股票，看起来跌得最惨。 从我观察过的光学股走势来看，$LITE / $COHR 回升得最快，接着是像 $AAOI / $AXTI 这种体量更大但贝塔值仍然很高的股票（恢复了一半）。 然后像 $SIVE / $POET 这类股票，恢复时间最长。但我确实看到，当市场风险偏好提升，或者财报迫使市场重新估值的时候，这些股票的反弹会更猛。
- English · 原文As for names Jensen / Nvidia directly invested in: - $MRVL (Celestial), $LITE, $COHR for photonics... - $CCXI (Agility) for humanoids. I tend to do more complex investing, for my own thought process: -> I know CPO theme is coming next -> Nvidia secures all CW laser capacity. -> Maybe, $AAOI, $MTSI, $AVGO, $SIVE, $SMTC are remaining CW western players. -> $SIVE probably the highest-beta exposure. SO that was my personal long. Can probably do something similar for the other themes.中文 · 翻译至于 Jensen / Nvidia 直接投资的公司： - $MRVL (Celestial), $LITE, $COHR 是做光子学的... - $CCXI (Agility) 是做人形机器人的。 我个人更倾向于做一些更复杂的投资，我的思路是这样的： -> 我知道 CPO 这个主题接下来要火。 -> Nvidia 拿下了所有 CW 激光的产能。 -> 也许，剩下的西方 CW 玩家是 $AAOI, $MTSI, $AVGO, $SIVE, $SMTC。 -> $SIVE 可能贝塔值最高，波动性最大。所以这就是我个人持有的多头。 也许其他主题也可以照做。
- English · 原文I feel like AI investing is simpler than what people expect. Because $NVDA + Jensen literally tells everyone what's coming. But somehow. Almost every. single. time. Markets dismiss it until it actually happens? Be Nvidia in 2025: Buys up EML and laser capacity. Markets dismissing it: "Photonics is a bubble and like quantum! ____ company is a scam with shady management" 1 year later: $LITE +678%, $AAOI +475.12%, $COHR +260.7%, $AXTI +3,843.9%. _ Nvidia in 2026: Buys up CW/EML capacity with LTAs. 800V shift. Extraordinary explicit about CPO shift. States Physical AI as the next theme. Markets now: "CW players are meme stocks! 800v, CPO is not coming anytime soon, Humanoids are not profitable!" Yeah... We'll see what happens in 2027. I think I'm putting my money on Jensen/Nvidia as the leading indicator.中文 · 翻译我感觉AI投资比大家想象的要简单。 因为$NVDA和黄仁勋（Jensen）简直就是把未来会发生什么明明白白地告诉所有人。 但不知怎么的。几乎每一次。每一次！市场都会不屑一顾，直到事情真正发生？ 想象一下2025年的英伟达：收购了EML和激光产能。 市场不屑一顾：“光子学是个泡沫，就像量子技术一样！____公司管理层有问题，就是个骗局！” 一年后：$LITE 涨了678%，$AAOI 涨了475.12%，$COHR 涨了260.7%，$AXTI 涨了3,843.9%。 _ 2026年的英伟达： 通过长期供货协议（LTAs）收购了连续波（CW）/EML产能。转向800V架构。非常明确地提到了CPO（共封装光学）的转变。明确指出实体AI是下一个主题。 现在的市场：“CW公司都是meme股！800V、CPO短期内不会实现，人形机器人不赚钱！” 是啊……我们拭目以待2027年发生什么吧。 我想我还是把钱押在黄仁勋/英伟达这个领先指标上。
- English · 原文It’s fully up to you. But I’m expecting $AAOI to get close or maybe a 20% chance to surpass $LITE in revenue early H1 2028 if AOI fully executes on capacity projections. Which is pretty interesting when you look at the $12B vs ~$80B valuations (lot of it is better margins for Lumentum)中文 · 翻译这完全取决于你自己。但我预计，如果 AOI 能完全实现其产能预测，那么 $AAOI 的营收在 2028 年上半年初将接近，甚至可能有 20% 的机会超越 $LITE。 如果你看看它们 120 亿美元对比大约 800 亿美元的市值（其中很大一部分是因为 Lumentum 的利润率更高），这就很有意思了。
- English · 原文You can look at the YTDs for: - $SIVE, $IQE, $AXTI, $ARM, $MRVL, $INTC, $SOI, solana:NBiSF3UaVUFtRzHwAfxyHsBCAZWGEKnMpewAE4oh7BG, $AAOI, $LITE, $EWY, $TSEM, $AEHR, $RPI, $MU that I did took positions on earlier in the year or last year. Then let me know if you still think that way.中文 · 翻译你可以看看这些股票今年以来的表现： - $SIVE, $IQE, $AXTI, $ARM, $MRVL, $INTC, $SOI, solana:NBiSF3UaVUFtRzHwAfxyHsBCAZWGEKnMpewAE4oh7BG, $AAOI, $LITE, $EWY, $TSEM, $AEHR, $RPI, $MU，我都是今年年初或去年就建仓的。 然后告诉我你是不是还那么想。
- English · 原文Feels like my $IQE thesis Feb this year got validated alongside $AXTI and others. (I still long on both) So I stopped covering them as much. But TLDR on updates: Early this year, IQE was a distressed but critical chokepoint in the optical supply chain with links to $LITE and others when I published my thesis on it. Since then: - $MTSI signed long term epiwafer supply agreements, took a stake in the company, now IQE is bank debt free (Macom has convertibles, but that's positive) - $TSEM signed agreements for InP epiwafers. - Management explicitly said its IQE agreement was signed to secure the "strategic III-V epiwafer supply required for that roadmap" - IQE signed another ~$14M mysterious AI DC contract. The only part that's still playing out with my earlier thesis is IQE converting their latent/underutilized capacity toward AI DC segment, to match peers like Landmark in the space (which takes time, like slightly over a year if I remember correctly). There's some national security implications that I'll avoid talking about that makes them more important. But basically: FY2025 revenue: £97.3m FY2026 guidance: over £126.5m They're rapidly growing again in the optical sector, out of bank debt/distressed liquidation state, and remains a critical chokepoint in Western optical supply chains. Now... with new agreements with your leading photonics companies for revenue growth, and players like Macom serving as a soft backstop. After a thesis gets validated, typically I just sit back and enjoy growth of a business.中文 · 翻译感觉我今年二月关于 $IQE 的投资论点，跟 $AXTI 等其他股票一样，都得到了验证。(我仍然持有这两只股票的多头仓位) 所以我就没那么频繁地写它们了。不过关于最新的进展，长话短说： 今年早些时候，当我发布关于 IQE 的论点时，它在光学供应链中是一个处于困境但至关重要的瓶颈，与 $LITE 等公司有联系。 自那时起： - $MTSI 签订了长期磊晶片供应协议，并持有该公司股份，现在 IQE 已经摆脱了银行债务（Macom 有可转债，但这是积极的） - $TSEM 签订了 InP 磊晶片协议。 - 管理层明确表示，其与 IQE 的协议是为了确保“该路线图所需的战略性 III-V 磊晶片供应”。 - IQE 又签了一份约 1400 万美元的神秘 AI 数据中心合同。 我早期论点中唯一还在发展的部分是 IQE 将其闲置/未充分利用的产能转向 AI 数据中心领域，以赶上 Landmark 等同行（这需要时间，如果我没记错的话，大概一年多一点）。 这里面有一些我不想谈的国家安全考量，让它们变得更加重要。 但总的来说： 2025 财年营收：9730 万英镑 2026 财年指引：超过 1.265 亿英镑 它们在光学领域又开始快速增长，摆脱了银行债务/困境清算状态，并且仍然是西方光学供应链中的一个关键瓶颈。 现在……有了与领先光子学公司的新协议来推动营收增长，以及 Macom 这样的参与者作为软性支撑。 投资论点得到验证后，我通常就会坐享业务增长了。
- English · 原文@JoelLikesTurtle That's literally the earliest timeframe possible for CPO scale up early volumes if you look at $LITE and $COHR earnings. And giving that specific timeframe is actually extremely bullish.中文 · 翻译@JoelLikesTurtle 如果你看看 $LITE 和 $COHR 的财报，这基本上是 CPO 最早能实现初期放量的时点了。 而且给出这么具体的时间点，实际上是非常看涨的。
- English · 原文My main takeaway was that your merchant CW laser suppliers seem to be EXTREMELY IMPORTANT now. But TLDR of $COHR earnings: "given the demand that we see in our DC business with transceivers, I don’t see any time in the near future where we would be selling indium phosphide lasers externally" - Ton more value placed on companies that sell InP lasers externally if $AAOI can't doesn't enough capacity for first gen-CPO deployments, $COHR not selling externally... I guess that's why $MTSI said a ton of customers are approaching them with urgency for InP CW DFB lasers (and they dont even have meaningful capacity coming online until EOY 2027) $AAOI -> Internal $COHR -> Internal Buyers -> fewer places to look for capacity. "Our backlog now extends out, fiscal 2027 is basically completely booked out. We are booked really through the end of calendar 2027" [ Massive massive demand visibility] - Coherent also mentioned LTAs spanning end of decade. So this kinda reinforces what $POET CEO said at their AGM that the "big 3" are fully sold out next 2 years. "we’re not constrained in the assembly and test capacity right now. We’re really just constrained by the ramp of the indium phosphide production" - Just for the bottleneck bros in terms of assembly/test not a bottleneck. "absolutely no push-out of CPO demand. In fact, it has been the opposite. We have seen demand increase and request from customers’ demand getting pulled in" "we continue to expect revenue from CPO for scale-up applications to start to flow in the second half of calendar 2027" - Big read through on other CPO players for scale up if $LITE, $COHR reaffirm revenue from CPO scale up coming h2027. - "quarterly revenue exceeding $3 billion by the end of fiscal 2027" - $COHR revenue go brrr So for regular numbers it's: - $2.046B revenue (+13.3% Q/Q, +33.8% Y/Y), main revenue ramp looks to be happening entering Q4 into 2027 - Non-GAAP gross margins: 40.2% Next quarter guide is: - Revenue: $2.2–$2.4B revenue - Non-GAAP gross margins: 39.5-41.5% Basically: $1.69B -> $1.81B -> $2.05B -> ~$2.30B -> $3.0B (end of FY 2027) ~39% -> 39.6% -> 40.2% -> ~40.5% (gross margins) For operating margins: 18.0% -> 19.5% -> 19.9% -> 20.3% -> 21.8% Little less impressed compared to $LITE margin growth in terms of profitability, but revenue scale for $COHR growing rapidly.中文 · 翻译我主要想说的是，你那些商家 CW 激光供应商现在看来是**极其重要**了。 但简单说一下 $COHR 财报重点： “考虑到我们数据中心业务对光模块的需求，我预计在不远的将来我们不会对外销售磷化铟激光器。” - 如果 $AAOI 没有足够的产能用于第一代 CPO 部署，$COHR 又不向外销售，那那些对外销售 InP 激光器的公司价值就更大了。 我想这就是为什么 $MTSI 说一大堆客户正急着找他们要 InP CW DFB 激光器（而且他们直到 2027 年底都不会有显著产能上线）。 $AAOI → 内部使用 $COHR → 内部使用 买家 → 能找的产能就更少了。 “我们的积压订单现在已经排到 2027 财年，基本上已经完全订满了。我们差不多已经排到 2027 年底了。” [巨大的需求可见性] - Coherent 也提到了长期供货协议（LTA）会持续到本世纪末。所以这有点印证了 $POET 首席执行官在股东大会上说的，“三巨头”未来两年产能全卖光了。 “我们目前在组装和测试产能方面没有限制。我们真正受限的是磷化铟生产的爬坡。” - 这是给那些“瓶颈论”兄弟们说的，组装/测试不是瓶颈。 “CPO 需求绝对没有推迟。实际上，情况正好相反。我们看到需求增加了，客户甚至要求提前交付。” “我们继续预计，用于规模化应用的 CPO 收入将在 2027 年下半年开始流入。” - 如果 $LITE、$COHR 都重申 CPO 规模化应用的收入会在 2027 年下半年到来，这对其他 CPO 玩家来说是一个重要的信号。 - “到 2027 财年末，季度营收将超过 30 亿美元。” - $COHR 营收突飞猛进。 所以常规数据如下： - 营收 20.46 亿美元（环比增长 13.3%，同比增长 33.8%），主要营收增长看来会发生在进入第四季度到 2027 年。 - 非 GAAP 毛利率：40.2%。 下一季度指引是： - 营收：22-24 亿美元。 - 非 GAAP 毛利率：39.5-41.5%。 基本上就是： 16.9 亿美元 → 18.1 亿美元 → 20.5 亿美元 → 约 23.0 亿美元 → 30 亿美元（2027 财年末） 约 39% → 39.6% → 40.2% → 约 40.5%（毛利率） 营业利润率方面： 18.0% → 19.5% → 19.9% → 20.3% → 21.8% 与 $LITE 在盈利能力上的利润增长相比，我没那么印象深刻，但 $COHR 的营收规模正在迅速增长。
- English · 原文@mikealfred Bears are going back into hibernation after seeing all these AI earning reports from $NBIS to $LITE.中文 · 翻译@mikealfred 空头们看到从 $NBIS 到 $LITE 这些 AI 财报后，又要冬眠去了。
- English · 原文I said $LITE went from $3b to $60B+ over a 2-3 year timeframe, especially due from Cloud Light acquisition in late 2023, that multiplied TAM by 5x+. Since they started off in the EML laser / optical component chokepoint originally before M&A. $SIVE has the potential to do the same starting off in the CW laser chokepoint. But it does require something like a successful M&A down pluggables or optical engines/ELS. To capture more revenue off things like completed transceivers $AAOI, if they want to get to a similar scale. And my take was NASDAQ listing is necessary to unlock more funding to do so.中文 · 翻译我说的，$LITE 在两三年内从 30 亿美元涨到 600 亿美元以上，主要归功于 2023 年底对 Cloud Light 的收购，这让它的总可寻址市场 (TAM) 扩大了 5 倍以上。 因为他们在并购前，最初是从 EML 激光器/光学元件这个瓶颈环节起家的。 $SIVE 也有潜力做同样的事情，它也是从连续波 (CW) 激光器这个瓶颈环节起步的。 但它确实需要一次成功的并购，比如并购下游的可插拔模块、光引擎/ELS。 这样才能从像 $AAOI 那样的完整收发器中获取更多营收，如果他们想达到类似的规模。而我的看法是，纳斯达克上市是必要的，才能解锁更多资金来实现这一点。
- English · 原文Insane earnings today for the AI theme with $CRWV, $SMCI, and $LITE. Coreweave: Absurd ~$104B+ backlog, which doesn't include $25B+ of new customer agreements added in early Q3. Compute demand read through for Neoclouds is enormous (For Nebius, Iren and others) Supermicro: Absurd $65-72B in revenue guidance, adding $60B+ in new orders... AI DC buildout read through is just enormous. Lumentum: $808M -> $1.01B -> $1.25B revenue ramp, with operating margins growing quarter after quarter. Photonics players just keeps printing. TLDR: Every layer of the AI buildout goes brrrrr, and it's showing up in earnings.中文 · 翻译今天人工智能赛道的这些股业绩真是炸裂，$CRWV、$SMCI 和 $LITE 都很猛。 Coreweave：积压订单量惊人地达到约 $1040 亿以上，这还不包括第三季度初新增的超过 $250 亿新客户合同。 从中可以看出，Neoclouds 的计算需求量巨大（比如 Nebius, Iren 等等）。 Supermicro：营收指引达到了惊人的 $650 亿至 $720 亿，还新增了超过 $600 亿的订单…… 从中看出，AI 数据中心的建设规模真是巨大。 Lumentum：营收从 $8.08 亿 → $10.1 亿 → $12.5 亿一路飙升，运营利润率也逐季增长。 光子学相关公司真是赚翻了。 总结一下：AI 基础设施的每个环节都在疯狂运转（像印钞机一样），而且这都实实在在地体现在了财报里。
- English · 原文$LITE earnings are out, very strong earnings: Revenue: $1.01B, +24.5% Q/Q, +109.3% Y/Y growth vs. ~$984.6M Adj. EPS: $3.23 vs. ~$2.95 Gross Margin (non-gaap): 50.4% / Operating margin (non-gaap) 36.6% Q1 FY2027 guidance is probably more important: Revenue: $1.225–1.275B vs. ~$1.16B Adj. EPS: $4.05–4.35 vs. ~$3.63 Operating margin (non-gaap) of 39.5% - 40.5% In terms of notes: Sees: "Increasing demand for ultra-high-power CPO lasers, an initial order for ELS modules" - Great read through on other CPO players like $SIVEF, $COHR, and others. (maybe not AAOI since they're missing out on first-gen deployments) - "Breath of NPO engagements are the first signs that optics are starting to penetrate in-rack connectivity, significantly upping our optical TAM" - Revenue projections "reaching our target model more than a quarter ahead of schedule." Extremely strong earnings as expected, you have revenue going from: $808M -> $1.01B -> $1.25B while operating margin keeps increasing... Just my first impressions. Most important thing is the earnings call coming up soon.中文 · 翻译$LITE 财报出来了，业绩非常强劲： 营收：10.1 亿美元，环比增长 24.5%，同比增长 109.3% vs. 约 9.846 亿美元 调整后每股收益：3.23 美元 vs. 约 2.95 美元 毛利率（非 GAAP）：50.4% / 营业利润率（非 GAAP）36.6% 2027 财年第一季度指引可能更重要： 营收：12.25 亿–12.75 亿美元 vs. 约 11.6 亿美元 调整后每股收益：4.05–4.35 美元 vs. 约 3.63 美元 营业利润率（非 GAAP）：39.5% - 40.5% 重点方面： 看到：“对超高功率 CPO 激光器的需求不断增加，ELS 模块获得了初步订单” - 这对 $SIVEF、$COHR 等其他 CPO 玩家来说是个很好的参考。（AAOI 可能除外，因为他们错过了第一代部署） - “NPO 合作的广度表明，光学技术正开始渗透到机架内连接领域，这显著提升了我们光学业务的潜在市场规模。” - 营收预测“比原计划提前一个多季度达到了我们的目标模型。” 业绩如预期般非常强劲，营收从： 8.08 亿美元 → 10.
- English · 原文Now that markets are hosting a laser party again from $SIVE, OE Solutions, $LITE, Coherent, to $AAOI. There’s a pretty interesting study: Both from Fidelity and a UC Berkeley research paper, that the best investors are the ones who either… - Anecdotally forgot about their account (Fidelity) - Didn’t actively trade/overtrade (18.5% return from infrequent traders vs. 11.4%). Not any advice, but some of these anecdotes might be helpful to retail to read in general… Since I witnessed a lot capitulation off memory, photonics, or thematic volatility, just for retail not have positions on a sharp recovery. Having conviction also usually people in that “not overtrading” camp, since it helps to not overtrade in drops or see opportunities to cost average.中文 · 翻译现在市场又因为 $SIVE、OE Solutions、$LITE、Coherent 和 $AAOI 搞起了激光派对。 有一个很有趣的研究： 无论是富达（Fidelity）还是加州大学伯克利分校的一份研究论文都指出，最好的投资者是那些要么…… - 传闻中忘了自己账户的人（富达的研究） - 没有频繁交易/过度交易的人（不常交易的投资者回报率是 18.5%，而其他人的回报率是 11.4%）。 这并非任何投资建议，但这些轶事对于散户来说，总体上可能有些启发…… 因为我亲眼目睹了太多因为记忆、光子学或主题波动造成的散户割肉，结果在市场急剧反弹时手里却没仓位。 有信念的人通常也属于“不过度交易”那拨，因为这有助于他们在下跌时不乱卖，还能看到逢低买入的机会。
- English · 原文I think we already got too many hints from $AAOI earnings about demand 20-40% imbalance for optical transivers with lasers as a bottleneck. And $POET stating big 3 are completely sold out of capacity next 2 years during their AGM. I don’t give earnings up or down predictions since it’s a coin flip most of the time. But I can say that a lot of pricing happens before earnings, unless there’s something very unexpected. Regardless I expect $LITE earnings to come out really strong, and I primary use it as a read through for your other laser players.中文 · 翻译我觉得我们已经从 $AAOI 的财报里得到很多暗示了，光模块的需求有 20-40% 的不平衡，而激光器是瓶颈。 还有 $POET 在他们的股东大会上说，三大巨头未来两年的产能都已完全售罄。 我不会去预测财报是好是坏，因为大部分时候这都像抛硬币一样。但我可以肯定地说，很多价格波动都在财报前就发生了，除非出现非常意想不到的情况。 无论如何，我预计 $LITE 的财报会非常强劲，我主要把它当作一个风向标，来解读其他激光器厂商的表现。
- English · 原文Just some near term events: - OCP APAC tomorrow (Ayar, Lightmatter, $AMD, $NVDA) and your CPO players are giving announcements/updates. This should be a catalyst for certain optical players. - Earnings week: with $ASTS, $RKLB reporting today (space), $LITE on Tuesday (photonics), $NBIS in the middle of the week (Neocloud), and more. - Unitree IPO subscriptions opened up today and Listing is expected this month. Should be a potential catalyst for the humanoid + robotics sector if it opens up well eg. $CCXI. Fun week ahead.中文 · 翻译就说几个近期的事件吧： - 明天就是OCP亚太峰会（Ayar, Lightmatter, $AMD, $NVDA），届时你们关注的CPO玩家会发布公告/更新。 这应该会对某些光模块公司形成催化剂。 - 财报周：今天有$ASTS、$RKLB（航天领域）发财报，周二有$LITE（光子学领域），周中有$NBIS（Neocloud），等等。 - Unitree的IPO申购今天开放了，预计本月上市。 如果它上市表现不错，这应该会对人形机器人+机器人板块形成一个潜在的催化剂，比如$CCXI。 接下来一周会很有趣。
- English · 原文Uhh I don’t want $SIVE to be acquired given how attractive their laser assets are. Since I see potential for them end up as the next $LITE. Honestly carving out OE solutions complete optical transceiver business or something similar that’s distressed from a private startup might be interesting. My guess is it comes after Nasdaq listing within next few quarters or so. I think the CEO knows what to do, so I’m just tagging along for the ride.中文 · 翻译呃，我可不希望 $SIVE 被收购，他们的激光资产实在太有吸引力了。我觉得他们有潜力成为下一个 $LITE。 说实话，如果能剥离出 OE solutions 完整的光模块业务，或者类似的、处于困境的初创公司的业务，可能会很有意思。 我猜这事儿会在纳斯达克上市后的几个季度发生。我觉得 CEO 知道该怎么做，所以我就跟着一起搭便车了。
- English · 原文For now yes, because Lumilens has a direct hyperscaler customer and multi-billion dollar purchase agreements. While $SIVE is an upstream laser supplier. Sivers needs to work its way downstream to capture more TAM with selling optical engines, ELS, or complete optical transceivers like $LITE did after M&A eg. Cloud Light. My opinion is that it’s easier to move downstream than upstream as you seen with the limited amount of qualified laser suppliers out there.中文 · 翻译目前来说是的，因为 Lumilens 有直接的超大规模客户，并且有数十亿美元的采购协议。而 $SIVE 只是上游的激光供应商。 Sivers 需要努力向下游发展，通过销售光学引擎、ELS 或完整的光收发器来获取更大的总潜在市场（TAM），就像 $LITE 在收购 Cloud Light 等公司后所做的那样。 我的看法是，向下游发展比向上游发展更容易，从市面上合格激光供应商数量有限的情况就能看出来。
- English · 原文I'm extremely bullish on $AAOI, it's one of my top holdings? But there's an unholy amount of things to unpack when AOI said they're not participating in first-gen CPO deployments because there's not enough capacity. 1. Independent CW DFB capacity, even less than markets thought. 2. Qualified CPO laser players, even less than markets thought. 3. I remember Rosenblatt thought $AAOI would be $AMD's first CPO customer, but might not be the case anymore... And since $LITE and $COHR are in camp $NVDA and sold out for next 2 years... Some other CPO players might be more valuable than others think.中文 · 翻译我对 $AAOI 非常看好，这是我持仓里的大头？ 但当 AOI 说他们不会参与第一代 CPO 部署，因为产能不足时，里面有惊人多的东西要细说。 1. 独立的连续波 DFB 产能，比市场预期的还要少。 2. 合格的 CPO 激光供应商，比市场预期的还要少。 3. 我记得 Rosenblatt 认为 $AAOI 会是 $AMD 的第一个 CPO 客户，但现在可能不再是这样了... 而且因为 $LITE 和 $COHR 都在 $NVDA 阵营，未来两年订单都满了... 其他一些 CPO 玩家可能比大家想象的更有价值。
- English · 原文$MTSI earnings transcript: "Customers are coming to us with urgency due to the general supply shortage of indium phosphide DFB lasers" Emphasis on "Urgency", CW "DFB lasers", "coming to us". CW DFB names, such as like $SIVE and $LITE should be happy to hear about this laser bottleneck getting validated.中文 · 翻译$MTSI 财报电话会议实录： "客户正急切地找到我们，因为磷化铟DFB激光器普遍供应短缺。" 重点是"急切"、"CW DFB激光器"和"找到我们"。 像 $SIVE 和 $LITE 这样的 CW DFB 概念股，听到这个激光器瓶颈得到证实，应该会很高兴。
- English · 原文$LITE CEO said even as their 5 InP laser fabs come online, shipments would be 30%+ below customer demand. (and worse than the current memory shortage) $AAOI said something similiar with a 20-40% figure. My guess is that InP substrates and lasers both will be one of the most severe bottlenecks in 2027. Which is why I place a lot of value on any independent capacity that comes online whether it's $SIVE with Win or $AAOI.中文 · 翻译$LITE 的 CEO 说，即使他们的 5 个 InP 激光芯片厂投产，出货量仍将比客户需求低 30% 以上。（这比目前的内存短缺还要严重） $AAOI 也说了类似的话，提到的数字是 20-40%。 我猜 InP 衬底和激光器都将是 2027 年最严重的瓶颈之一。 这就是为什么我非常看重任何上线的新增独立产能，无论是 $SIVE 与 Win 的合作，还是 $AAOI 自己。
- English · 原文Just some TLDR notes on $AAOI earnings: - Expects full qualification of 1.6T products by their hyperscaler customer within next couple of weeks (helpful revenue ramp #2, timelines) - Continues to believe that AOI will have the largest AI DC transceiver production capacity in the US (reiterating ambitions during a time when their competitors might get banned) - Expects facilities toward InP capacity to come online in early 2027 (timeline FYI in terms of further ramp) - Total capacity is approaching 200,000/u per month, EOY 650,000/u per month of 800g/1.6t. EOY 2027, 930,000/u (this is the ramp i want to see) - "increase our manufacturing capacity for our external light source or ELSFP. That's for co-packaged optics or CPO". we anticipate ramping production later this year and into 2027, ultimately culminating in about 400,000 pieces per month in 2028 (need some time to model this into revenue) - "As we have mentioned before, we've been manufacturing lasers internally for many years. This has allowed us to avoid some of the shortages that have affected others in the industry" (vertical integration bull case during CW/EML laser shortages) - We believe that in the future, CPO will continue to drive increased demand for high-power lasers (thesis validation on CPO sector) - "to our long-term objective of returning non-GAAP gross margins to around 40%" - "We ended the second quarter with $508.8 million in total cash equivalents" I need to double check if the ATM finished or not - "our ability to deliver revenue in general, and specifically when it comes to 800G products, is limited by our production capacity right now" "If we could produce more, we could ship more right now" Demand > Supply validation. - "Most of the increased capacity will be in U.S. Even so, let me say that, like I keep emphasizing, that is not good enough for the customer demand. The customer demand is 20%-40% higher." Unholy photonics demand validation across the whole sector, read through for $LITE, $SIVE / $JBL, and others is amazing. - "Not in the next two, three years, especially the demand is so big. Okay? Even combined AI, $LITE, $COHR, $AVGO all together, it's still very tough to meet the customer demand in the next few years" More optical sector demand validation. - CPO Timelines: "If you're talking about really high volume manufacturer [for CPO market], I would say more like the late Q3 next year" and "We have been working very close with at least five customer" If you care about current earnings (which I'm not really looking at closely) Revenue: $191M vs. $190m EPS: $.06 vs. $.02 TLDR: Extraordinary demand across the laser + optical sector read through. Kinda supporting Lumentum CEO statement that laser shortage is worse than memory shortages. 2027 capacity ramp on track. To map inflection period with timelines, would be around early next year, as stated in their previous earnings call. AAOI has the customers now. Limitation is making enough lasers and transceivers.中文 · 翻译只是关于 $AAOI 财报的一些太长不看笔记： - 预计在未来几周内，其超大规模客户将完成 1.6T 产品的全面认证 （有助于营收增长 #2，时间线） - 仍然相信 AOI 将拥有美国最大的 AI 数据中心光模块生产能力 （在竞争对手可能被禁之际，重申雄心） - 预计 InP 产能设施将于 2027 年初投产 （关于进一步增长的时间线 FYI） - 总产能接近每月 20 万片/单位，到年底 800G/1.6T 产能将达到每月 65 万片/单位。到 2027 年底，将达到 93 万片/单位 （这就是我希望看到的增长） - “增加我们外部光源或 ELSFP 的制造能力。这是为了共同封装光学（CPO）。”我们预计将在今年晚些时候和 2027 年逐步提高产量，最终在 2028 年达到每月约 40 万片 （需要一些时间把这个模型化为营收） - “正如我们之前提到的，我们内部生产激光器已经很多年了。这使我们能够避免行业中其他人所面临的一些短缺” （在 CW/EML 激光器短缺期间的垂直整合看涨案例） - 我们相信，未来 CPO 将继续推动对高功率激光器需求的增长 （CPO 行业的论点得到验证） - “实现我们非 GAAP 毛利率回到 40% 左右的长期目标” - “第二季度末，我们总现金等价物为 5.088 亿美元” 我需要再次核实 ATM 是否已完成。 - “我们交付营收的能力，特别是 800G 产品的能力，目前受到我们生产能力的限制。”“如果我们能生产更多，我们现在就能出货更多” 需求 > 供应得到验证。 - “大部分增加的产能将在美国。即便如此，我还是要说，就像我一直强调的，这对客户需求来说还不够。客户需求比这高出 20%-40%。” 整个光子学领域的巨大需求得到验证，对 $LITE、$SIVE / $JBL 等公司的影响令人惊叹。 - “未来两三年内不会，特别是需求如此之大。好吗？即使把 AI、$LITE、$COHR、$AVGO 全部加起来，未来几年也很难满足客户需求” 更多光学领域需求得到验证。 - CPO 时间线：“如果你说的是（CPO 市场）真正的高产量制造商，我会说是明年第三季度末左右”，并且“我们一直在与至少五家客户密切合作” 如果你关心目前的财报（我并没有密切关注） 营收：1.91 亿美元 vs. 1.90 亿美元 每股收益：0.06 美元 vs. 0.02 美元 太长不看：整个激光 + 光学领域需求异常旺盛。某种程度上支持了 Lumentum CEO 关于激光器短缺比内存短缺更严重的说法。 2027 年产能增长按计划进行。与时间线匹配的拐点期大约在明年年初，正如他们上次财报电话会议中提到的。 $AAOI 现在有客户了。限制在于生产足够的激光器和光模块。
- English · 原文$AAOI is an end of H1 2027 volume ramp player for me, since around then is when they hit inflection point of $471m/month revenue projections. Recent drafted ban on new optical transceivers coming from Innolight and others, increase weight on players like AAOI, $SIVE / $JBL, $LITE, $COHR for their 1.6T+ programs as well. Especially if finalized in 2026. Since there's likely going to be price hikes, and more demand concentration over capacity from the select few Western players.中文 · 翻译对我来说，$AAOI 是一个到 2027 年上半年末能实现产量大爆发的标的，因为大概在那时候，他们会达到每月 4.71 亿美元营收预期的拐点。 最近拟议的对来自 Innolight 等公司的新型光模块的禁令，也增加了 $AAOI、$SIVE / $JBL、$LITE、$COHR 这些公司在其 1.6T+ 项目上的权重。尤其是在 2026 年确定下来的话。 因为很可能会有价格上涨，而且需求会更加集中到少数几家西方供应商，超过他们的产能。
- English · 原文$LITE CEO Michael Hurlston at the RAISE Summit warned that the supply gap for InP lasers for AI DCs: Is facing a more severe supply chain crisis than memory. And with Lumentum's 5 InP fabs, shipments would be more than 30%+ below customer demand. This is especially visible with EMLs today but is already expanding to CW, especially as CPO ramps. I've always been a fan of the laser chokepoint + bottleneck from $AAOI, $SIVE, $LITE, and $COHR. And glad this thesis is starting to see validation.中文 · 翻译$LITE 的 CEO Michael Hurlston 在 RAISE 峰会上发出警告，说用于 AI 数据中心的 InP 激光器存在供货缺口： 面临的供应链危机比内存还要严重。 Lumentum 虽然有 5 座 InP 晶圆厂，但出货量会比客户需求低 30% 以上。 这一点在 EML 激光器上今天尤其明显，但已经开始蔓延到 CW 激光器，尤其是 CPO 逐渐普及后。 我一直都看好激光器是瓶颈和关键环节，关注 $AAOI、$SIVE、$LITE 和 $COHR。很高兴这个论点开始得到验证了。
- English · 原文$AXTI secured LTA with $COHR earlier, with a $22.3M reservation payment. As well as a LTA with $LITE today, totaling $87M ($43.5M + $43.5M) again to reserve capacity. Considering that these are both of the two leading optical players, seems positive. The actual details such as pricing of the contracts aren't known, so we'll find out more.中文 · 翻译$AXTI 之前和 $COHR 签了个长期供货协议（LTA），收到了一笔 $22.3M 的预付款。 今天又和 $LITE 签了个 LTA，总额是 $87M（$43.5M + $43.5M），也是为了预定产能。 考虑到这两家都是光学领域的头部玩家，这事看起来挺积极的。 合同的具体细节，比如定价之类的还不清楚，所以我们还要等等看。
- English · 原文$AXTI enters long term agreement with $LITE for InP substrates. Lumentum has agreed to pay a deposit of $43.5M as a reservation for capacity. https://t.co/5Dl3L9EYRa中文 · 翻译$AXTI 和 $LITE 达成一项关于磷化铟（InP）衬底的长期协议。 Lumentum 同意支付 $43.5M 的定金，以预留产能。https://t.co/5Dl3L9EYRa
- English · 原文Global indiscriminate AI deleveraging right now, $AAOI is one of the high-beta names affected. I'd personally be surprised to say the least if they do $5.6B annualized revenue in 2027 (off of $471m/month projections), and remain a $6.3B company. $LITE annualized right now is ~$3.23B and they're a $48B company (but higher margins)中文 · 翻译全球AI概念股正在不分好坏地被去杠杆，而 $AAOI 就是受影响的高贝塔股之一。 我个人觉得，如果他们2027年能做到年化56亿美元营收（按每月4.71亿美元的预测算），市值却还只有63亿美元，那我至少会感到很惊讶。 $LITE 现在年化营收大概是32.3亿美元，他们是家市值480亿美元的公司（不过利润率更高）。
- English · 原文US Gov to take 1% stake in $GFS, and award them $300m for the US CHIPS ACT. This is actually a strong read through on $SIVE / $LITE, given this CHIPS ACT is specifically aimed at advancing CPO + Silicon Photonics. (For reference, Sivers and Lumentum were the only two public laser suppliers named in GFS presentation slides. Sivers laser arrays was named recently as a reference design in Globalfoundries SCALE for CPO). Per US Gov announcement: "GlobalFoundries will receive up to $300 million to accelerate domestic CPO R&D by two to three years" (NIST) Never thought we'd see the US Gov / $INTC foundry playbook for CPO in specific...中文 · 翻译美国政府将持有 $GFS 1% 的股份，并根据美国《芯片法案》向他们拨款 3 亿美元。 考虑到《芯片法案》专门旨在推动 CPO（共同封装光学）和硅光子技术，这实际上是对 $SIVE / $LITE 的一个强力解读。 （供参考，在 GFS 的演示幻灯片中，Sivers 和 Lumentum 是仅有的两家被点名的上市激光供应商。Sivers 的激光阵列最近在 GlobalFoundries 的 SCALE for CPO 中被列为参考设计。） 根据美国政府公告：“GlobalFoundries 将获得最高 3 亿美元，用于将国内 CPO 研发速度加快两到三年”（NIST） 从没想过我们会看到美国政府 / $INTC 在 CPO 领域的代工合作模式……
- English · 原文@Thomus0x eh, Rosenblatt June 30 note identified AMD as the likely first $AAOI CPO customer. I wouldn't quite say they aren't remotely close. $LITE / $COHR / $SIVE just look like your top 3 right now in terms of CPO laser visibility per the recent Morgan Stanley note.中文 · 翻译@Thomus0x 哎，Rosenblatt 6 月 30 日的报告里指出，AMD 很可能是 $AAOI 的第一个 CPO 客户。所以我觉得说他们根本不沾边，那就不太对。 $LITE / $COHR / $SIVE 看起来就是目前你的前三名，这主要是在 CPO 激光能见度方面，是根据最近摩根士丹利的报告说的。
- English · 原文Not exactly for $AAOI (they're working on CPO too, just a little further behind in commercialization). There's a podcast that featured the $SIVE CEO recently called: "Market Insights: Photonics & AI". Most interesting take was: "Pluggables will be around for the next 10 years". There's a lot of CPO + RNG/MRC optimization TAM cannablization arguments for pluggables recently, but looks like it's here to stay. And that there's going to be multiple architecture paths going forward (CEO also NPO alongside CPO as an major opportunity in the next 5 years). As for challenges: Vickram stated manufacturing capacity + availability of raw material is the main bottleneck. Likely referencing the existing bottlenecks with upstream CW laser ramp. From the podcast, seems like a large focus was on pluggable markets due to larger near-term TAM (which is understandable with $JBL + other players), with CPO being the north star. So it might be interesting if $SIVE M&A ambitions were to acquire more pluggable optical transceiver IP, like what $LITE did with Cloud Light. But TLDR: Lot of different paths moving forward, pluggable here to stay, CPO seems like North Star for where industry is heading. Feels like there's room for every qualified laser supplier given the industry demand is growing faster than what they can all collectively make.中文 · 翻译不完全是针对 $AAOI (他们也在做CPO，只是商业化稍微落后一点)。 最近有个播客采访了 $SIVE 的CEO，名字叫“市场洞察：光子学与AI”。 最有意思的观点是： “可插拔光模块未来十年都还会存在。” 最近有很多关于CPO + RNG/MRC优化，会侵蚀可插拔光模块TAM（市场总量）的说法，但看起来可插拔还是要继续存在。 而且未来会有多种架构路径（CEO也提到，未来5年NPO和CPO一样是个重要机会）。 至于挑战：Vickram提到，制造能力和原材料供应是主要瓶颈。可能指的是上游连续波（CW）激光器产能爬坡现有的
- English · 原文$GOOGL reported earnings today: EPS: $9.11 actual vs $2.91 expected - retail reactions to EPS blowout is kinda just accounting noise, since $SPCX, Anthropic, and others were likely large contributors. Revenue: $119.7B actual vs. $116.98B expected Google Cloud Revenue: $24.77B +82% Y/Y, vs. 63-65% expected ($22.2-$22.6B) - this is a very large beat and most material part so far. Cloud Operating Income: ~$8.81B, implying 35.6% margin vs. 32.9% Q1. Capex: $44.92B vs ~$44.15B (basically in line). So initial read through is Google Cloud accelerating growth with expanding margins is genuinely bullish for AI demand. Their former $180-$190B capex guidance is already extremely large, and as long as we get around these numbers in the earnings call + forward projections... Should be good to go for $LITE and the other optics/networking trade. (eg. last earnings, they said DC and networking would be ~40% of capex spend). Hyperscaler earnings transcripts are probably the most important thing to pay attention to with the AI capex trade. And that should be in 3 minutes.中文 · 翻译$GOOGL 今天公布了财报： 每股收益 (EPS)：实际 $9.11，预期 $2.91——散户对EPS大超预期的反应，其实有点像会计账面操作的噪音，因为 $SPCX、Anthropic 和其他公司很可能是主要的贡献者。 营收：实际 $1197 亿美元，预期 $1169.8 亿美元。 Google Cloud 营收：$247.
- English · 原文Memory names from Kioxia finished up a whopping +17.18%. Samsung up +6.15%. Optical networking from $SIVE, $LITE, and $AAOI are showing signs of recovery, all up 4%+. Neoclouds from $NBIS to $IREN all up 4%+ premarket. $INTC to $AMD to $MRVL all up 4%+. Does the Cramer effect work on the entire AI trade?中文 · 翻译铠侠系的存储股今天猛涨了17.18%。三星也涨了6.15%。 $SIVE、$LITE 和 $AAOI 这些光网络股都在展现复苏迹象，全部涨了4%以上。 从 $NBIS 到 $IREN 的 Neoclouds 概念股，盘前全部涨了4%以上。 从 $INTC 到 $AMD 再到 $MRVL，这些股都涨了4%以上。 难道克拉默效应要对整个AI概念股都起作用了吗？
- English · 原文If $AAOI are projecting $1.4B a quarter q3 2027 ($471m/month), which is $5.6B revenue annualized, (targeting 40%+ gaap gross margins). And they’re a $8B MC… Or if personal $SIVE CW Win capacity projections are around ~$400m midpoint array revenue off 60% gross margins. And that’s a $1B MC. Just applying a low 20 fwd p/e might rerate optical names considerably. Even with other names like $LITE, they’re completely sold out for the next 2 years, and having that sort of demand visibility… Is not a bubble. Europeans tend to use TTM to value companies while optical names are 2027-2028 growth stories.中文 · 翻译如果 $AAOI 预计到 2027 年第三季度，每季度能做到 14 亿美元（相当于每月 4.71 亿美元），那年化收入就是 56 亿美元（目标 GAAP 毛利率超 40%）。 而他们现在市值才 80 亿美元…… 或者，如果我个人预测的 $SIVE CW Win 产能，能带来大约 4 亿美元左右的营收（基于 60% 毛利率）。 而它现在市值才 10 亿美元。 光是给这些光器件公司一个 20 倍的远期市盈率，估值可能都会大幅重估。 即使是像 $LITE 这样的公司，未来两年订单都排满了，有这种需求可见度…… 这根本就不是泡沫。 欧洲人倾向于用过去 12 个月的业绩来估值，但光器件公司是 2027-2028 年的增长故事。
- English · 原文Thanks, love reading the comments! Goldman Sachs raised Innolight PT to 2581 RMB. Roughly 163.6% upside from current valuations. But the largest thing is its 2026–2028 earnings est revision raised by a whopping 65%/108%/119%, based on: - Much higher silicon photonics module volumes - scale out, scale up, scale across volumes - 1.6T/3.2T lifting blended ASP + margins - increase in AI capex This is typically very material read through on the optical sector since: I tend to think of Innolight as a $TSM (semi capex) type read on how the photonics landscape is doing. Eg. Higher silicon photonics penetration means more TAM for cw lasers like $SIVE (cw) / SOI wafer demand for $SOI. ASP hikes for future gen is positive for the other optical markers too. Think my other takeaway outside the report was Innolight stating 800g demand was growing more significantly than expected from their transcript on the 12th. Which in turn signals more demand for names like $AAOI to $LITE next earnings. TLDR: GS gives high earnings projections during a time of massive corrections. Fundamentally, broader photonics ecosystem should be happy when it’s ER time.中文 · 翻译谢谢，喜欢看评论！ 高盛将 Innolight 目标价上调至 2581 元人民币。相对当前估值，还有大约 163.6% 的上涨空间。 但最重要的是，它将 2026-2028 年的盈利预测修正值大幅上调了 65%/108%/11
- English · 原文My guess is we’re close to market bottom on semis from $INTC to $LITE. A good indicator is if everyone on $RDDT blew up their portfolios to $0. https://t.co/X1m9Yv1JuX中文 · 翻译我猜半导体股票可能快要触底了，从 $INTC 到 $LITE 都是。 一个很好的信号就是看 $RDDT 上的散户是不是都把他们的投资组合亏光了。https://t.co/X1m9Yv1JuX
- English · 原文Morgan Stanley listed $SIVE as the three core CPO laser players alongside $LITE and $COHR in their note 3 days ago. Fidelity Research, JP Morgan and others have started to take active positions. They recently raised an oversubscribed institutional round at 57 SEK. This is all ahead of US NASDAQ listing. I personally see short term liquidity disconnects relative to forward revenue around now and I'm sure institutions are capitalizing on it.中文 · 翻译摩根士丹利三天前在他们的研报中，将 $SIVE 跟 $LITE 和 $COHR 一起，列为三大核心 CPO 激光供应商。 富达研究、摩根大通等机构已经开始积极建仓。他们最近以 57 瑞典克朗的定价完成了一轮超额认购的机构融资。 而所有这些，都发生在美国纳斯达克上市之前。 我个人认为，目前短期流动性与未来营收之间存在脱节，而且我确信机构正在利用这一点。
- English · 原文I think people tend to forget that $LITE went from a $3B valuation to $60B+ in 2 years time from owning the EML chokepoint. This was before the 9x TAM expansion to ~$154B per GS by H2 2028. $SIVE has the opportunity to dominate the next CW chokepoint with 1.6T and CPO. And it's sitting at ~$1.1B now.中文 · 翻译我觉得大家好像忘了，$LITE 曾因为掌握了EML这个关键环节，在短短两年内市值就从30亿美元一路飙升到600多亿美元。 这还是在高盛 (GS) 预测的，到2028年下半年总潜在市场 (TAM) 将达到约1540亿美元，实现9倍增长之前发生的事。 $SIVE 有机会凭借1.6T和CPO技术，主导下一个CW（连续波）的关键环节。 而它现在市值才大约11亿美元。
- English · 原文I don't see any fundamentally wrong. There's probably going to be large corrections from time to time flush out margin/leverage before things move higher. And this month seems like that time of year? $POET confirmed your big optical giants like $LITE, $COHR are completely sold out for the next 2 years, and likely into 2029 for photonics. Innolight confirmed 800g transceiver upward revisions 3 days ago, so that should be positive for $AAOI and the others. Samsung became the most profitable company in the world, and continues to project DRAM hikes for future quarters. $MU signed 16+ LTAs showing memory demand is structural... $META + hyperscaler capex plans are on the higher end of projections. I wouldn't conflate short term price movements with longer term trends. And as seen with $AEHR, recoveries tend to be extremely fast (eg. 1M of corrections wiped out overnight).中文 · 翻译我没看到任何根本性的问题。市场很可能会时不时出现大幅回调，用来清洗保证金/杠杆，然后才会继续上涨。 这个月感觉就像一年中这样的时刻？ $POET 证实了那些大型光学巨头，比如 $LITE、$COHR，未来两年订单都排满了，光子学领域可能要到 2029 年。 Innolight 证实了 3 天前上调了 800G 收发器预期，所以这对 $AAOI 和其他公司来说应该是利好。 三星成为了全球最赚钱的公司，并继续预测未来几个季度 DRAM 价格上涨。$MU 签署了 16+ 份长期协议（LTA），这表明内存需求是结构性的... $META 加上超大规模数据中心资本支出计划都处于预测的较高区间。 我不会把短期价格波动和长期趋势混为一谈。就像 $AEHR 的情况那样，市场恢复通常会非常快（比如，一个月的回调可能一夜之间就被抹平）。
- English · 原文Feels like algos often miss $SIVE, after slight $LITE / optical sector recovery after CPI print. Especially bc it's trading on some random Swedish exchange, but catches up on random days. That being said it's definitely on institutional radar, especially since MS put it next to $LITE and $COHR as the three leading CPO laser companies yesterday. Just waiting for things to play out, stocks don't move in a straight line up every day.中文 · 翻译感觉算法（algo）经常错过 $SIVE，尤其是 CPI 数据公布后，光模块（optical sector）/ $LITE 板块略有复苏。部分原因它在某个瑞典的随机交易所交易，但总能在某些日子里补涨。 话虽如此，它肯定在机构的关注范围内，特别是摩根士丹利昨天把它和 $LITE、$COHR 并列，称之为三家领先的 CPO 激光公司。 就等事情发展吧，股票不可能每天都一直涨。
- English · 原文TLDR of Innolight investor relations takeaways: 1. "Overall, 1.6T market demand has not contracted; instead, 800G demand has increased significantly compared with previous expectations" Prob most important takeaway as a whole was 800G demand revision (also longer tail demand). Which is a bullish read through on US transceiver makers like $AAOI, $COHR, $LITE. Lot of new customers like neoclouds, AI model companies, contributing to overall demand rather than just hyperscalers, diversification always a bonus. 2. Innolight said the shortage covers the module supply chain broadly including: - Optical chips. - Electrical chips. - PCBs. - Other module materials From last ER, I think they singled out EMLs and CW optical chips as the most constrained. So Innolight's bottleneck list mention broadened since then. They expect some of the component availability to improve gradually from the second half of 2026 through the first half of 2027. Think a lot of this is already known from earlier though. But just some confirmation + easing timelines (EML is extremely bottlenecked, same with CW, this is probably talking about other components). 3. Innolight said module-production equipment is not the constraint. Equipment lead times remain relatively short. So this isn't really a bottleneck compared to others. 4. The overall proportion of silicon photonics continues to trend upward. Last year it was mainly 800G. This year, some 800G customers are further increasing their silicon-photonics proportion. 1.6T also added some new customers Positive for SiPH penetration eg. $SIVE / $JBL, since this shifts away from EML toward CW. Basically: main surprising takeaway is just 800g demand go brrr. Apart from that just reaffirming bottlenecks/timelines/market speculation.中文 · 翻译一句话总结一下 Innolight 投资者关系会议的要点： 1. “总的来说，1.6T 市场需求没有萎缩；反而，800G 需求比之前的预期大幅增长。” 可能整体最重要的一个要点就是 800G 需求预测的上修（也包括更长期的需求）。这对 $AAOI、$COHR、$LITE 等美国光模块制造商是利好消息。 很多新客户，比如新兴云服务商、AI 模型公司，都在为整体需求做贡献，而不仅仅是超大规模数据中心厂商，
- English · 原文$AAOI mainly gets revenue from pluggable, they’re developing/sampling related lasers but have no CPO design wins. Others like $MTSI look like they fell off the map for some reason with cpo lasers. CEO says “TBD” with commercial timing and it’s in reliability work right now. And fits the OSINT research done with Ayar removing Macom from their website. So would agree with MS that $SIVE, $LITE, $COHR imo are the three leaders to focus on for lasers.中文 · 翻译$AAOI的营收主要来自可插拔模块，他们正在开发/送样相关激光器，但还没有CPO设计订单。 像$MTSI这样的其他公司，似乎因为某种原因在CPO激光器领域掉队了。 CEO说商业化时间“待定”，目前正在进行可靠性测试。这也和开源情报（OSINT）研究吻合，Ayar把Macom从他们网站上撤掉了。 所以我同意MS的看法，$SIVE、$LITE、$COHR在我看来，是激光器领域最值得关注的三大龙头。
- English · 原文Yep, it’s interesting to witness retail capitulation. After we got Bloomberg Meta compute article cleared up by their internal memo. And the 2 reports on delays were denied by Nvidia. Both of which caused the selloff in the first place... So Photonics / Nvidia’s roadmap hasn’t fundamentally changed: $LITE is still completely sold out for the next 2 years and likely into 2029. $SIVE is about to volume ramp with GlobalFoundries, Jabil, Poet, Ayar, and other hyperscaler suppliers. $TSM COUPE and their TW suppliers from Shunsin to Foci aren’t randomly disappearing into the void. $AAOI and their $471m/month h2 2027 revenue projections haven’t changed. $IQE and their epiwafer contracts with Macom and Tower Semi haven’t disappeared. $AXTI ownership of 40% of the InP substrate supply chains haven’t suddenly disappeared. As with any theme from Rocketlab + Space sector 50% drop back in 2025. Or Nebius + Neocloud 50% drop entering 2026. Or the Samsung/SK Hynix crash from Iran War LNG/Helium/Oil fears few months ago. Volatility from indiscriminate thematic selloffs isn’t typically representative of individual company fundamentals. Retail tends to build conviction over price movements and imaginary charts, then lose that when a stock drops. And institutions are probably placing limit orders to capitalize on that. Conviction shouldn’t be tied to the quote of a stock on a certain day, but long term revenue or operating income growth.中文 · 翻译没错，看到散户认输挺有意思的。 彭博社关于Meta算力的那篇文章，在他们内部备忘录澄清之后， 还有那两份关于延迟的报道，也被英伟达否认了。 这两件事本来就是导致这次抛售的原因…… 所以，光子学/英伟达的路线图并没有根本性改变：
- English · 原文$SIVE US NASDAQ listing is more for: - Fundraising (most important thing) to acquire IP + TAM expansion and make each laser they sell more valuable. Following what $LITE did (eg. Cloud Light acquisition) from just selling lasers. - Also it helps bridge valuation gaps, since I see it as undervalued relative to laser peers that are all in the tens of billions. Rather than near term revenue/partnerships.中文 · 翻译$SIVE 在美国纳斯达克上市更多是为了： - 融资（最重要的一点），用于收购知识产权 + 扩大潜在市场，让他们卖出的每台激光器都更有价值。这和 $LITE 以前的做法类似（比如收购 Cloud Light），它也是从单纯卖激光器起步的。 - 另外，这也有助于弥补估值差距，因为我觉得它相对于那些市值都是数百亿美元的激光同行来说，是被低估了。 而不是为了短期的收入或合作。
- English · 原文@Goodly2016 I just the algo gods just missed $SIVE after $LITE and the laser names pulled a recovery.中文 · 翻译@Goodly2016 感觉算法大神们刚刚错过 $SIVE，毕竟 $LITE 和那些激光相关股都反弹了。
- English · 原文$SIVE is probably my favorite stocks right now, not concerned about short term drops. - You have the laser supplier to $GFS, $JBL, Ayar, $POET, and many other hyperscaler suppliers. - NASDAQ listing planned in the next few quarters - Followed by M&A goals for TAM expansion. And it's literally trading less than $POET for some reason. All while CW lasers are extremely bottlenecked to the point $LITE can't make enough. Then they got a considerable amount of oversubscribed funding for fabless laser ramp recently. Comfortable long for me, probably one of the stocks that way overshot selloff imo.中文 · 翻译$SIVE 应该是我目前最喜欢的股票了，短期下跌我一点不担心。 - 他们是 $GFS、$JBL、Ayar、$POET 以及许多其他超大规模数据中心供应商的激光供应商。 - 计划在未来几个季度在纳斯达克上市 - 之后的目标是通过并购拓展市场规模（TAM）。 而且不知道为什么，它目前的交易价格竟然比 $POET 还低。与此同时，连续波（CW）激光器产能严重瓶颈，连 $LITE 都供不应求。 最近他们又为无晶圆厂激光器产能扩张获得了可观的超额认购资金。 对我来说，这是一个安心长期持有的标的，在我看来，它很可能是那批被过度抛售的股票之一。
- English · 原文Just putting it out there: If everything crashes together from $NBIS, $MRVL, $INTC, $SNDK, $AMD, $SIVE, $MU, $LITE, and others... Which are all down -4% to -10%+ today so far. Probably doesn't have anything to do with individual fundamentals. Indiscriminate selloffs from things like cascading margin liquidations, usually provide compelling opportunities if the underlying improves.中文 · 翻译就随便说一下我的看法： 如果 $NBIS、$MRVL、$INTC、$SNDK、$AMD、$SIVE、$MU、$LITE 这些股票，还有其他一些，都跟着一起崩盘…… 这些今天目前为止跌幅都在 -4% 到 -10% 以上。 那这可能就和个股基本面没什么关系了。 像瀑布式保证金清算这类原因导致的无差别抛售，如果标的公司基本面在改善的话，通常会带来非常不错的机会。
- English · 原文Yep, $AMZN looks like the clear winner in physical AI shift. I think the Amazon ecosystem... is probably going to the catalyst for robotics players compared to others in the Google/Meta ecosystems. I kinda see parallels to the $GOOGL TPU effect on suppliers like $LITE or Mediatek, but for robotics... like Agility. Still early though.中文 · 翻译嗯，$AMZN 看起来是实体AI转型中明显的赢家。 我觉得亚马逊的生态系统... 相较于 Google/Meta 生态系统里的其他公司，可能会成为机器人领域玩家的催化剂。 我有点看到这跟 $GOOGL TPU 对 $LITE 或联发科这类供应商的影响很相似，不过这次是针对机器人领域... 比如 Agility。不过现在还早。
- English · 原文UDN Money report "殺翻光通訊後 SemiAnalysis 惹議 業界揭其劣跡 許多公司慘遭魔手": - SemiAnalysis, released a report in June, questioning the timing of the launch of the CPO on the grounds of low yield and delay, which caused the photonics sector to collapse. - The agency then partnered with Tema to launch a photonics ETF. - The shares held in the ETF under the trading code LAZR happened to be the photonics stocks that were mentioned negatively in the report $HIMX and $LITE, which were specifically targeted negatively in their article "Powered Down, Lights Off", have been bought in Semianalysis and Tema's new ETF after the optical sector crash.中文 · 翻译原推为中文，无需翻译
- English · 原文@256_rc -> Writes bearish report, specifically calling out $HIMX and $LITE -> Proceeds to add $HIMX and $LITE their actively managed ETF after they drop -25-40%. op strategy.中文 · 翻译@256_rc → 写了一份看空报告，特别点名了 $HIMX 和 $LITE → 之后在它们跌了 25-40% 之后，把 $HIMX 和 $LITE 加到了他主动管理的 ETF 里。 神操作。
- English · 原文Always a fun time seeing semi markets crash from Bloomberg report framing once again… UBS analyst on $META report: “this is not new news”. Regardless: $AEHR down -18.3% $AAOI down -17.13% $SIVEF down -15.4% $SNDK down -14.8% $TER down -13.8% $GLW down -11.4% $MRVL down -11.2% $LITE down -10.2% $NBIS down -7.8% Getting PTSD from Bloombert’s previous misleading report on AMD/Nvidia global export controls earlier this year that crashed semi stocks. FYI: Meta doesn’t randomly buy $48B+ worth of neocoud contracts if they overbuilt capacity and can cut capex… Markets are stupid sometimes.中文 · 翻译每次看到半导体市场因为彭博社的报道措辞再次暴跌，都觉得挺有意思的… 瑞银分析师评论 $META 财报说：“这不是什么新消息。” 但不管怎么说： $AEHR 下跌 -18.3% $AAOI 下跌 -17.13% $SIVEF 下跌 -15.4% $SNDK 下跌 -14.8% $TER 下跌 -13.8% $GLW 下跌 -11.4% $MRVL 下跌 -11.2% $LITE 下跌 -10.2% $NBIS 下跌 -7.8% 看到这个，我都想起彭博社今年早些时候那篇关于 AMD/Nvidia 全球出口管制的误导性报道，当时也搞得半导体股票大跌，简直要犯 PTSD 了。 顺便提一下：如果 Meta 真有过剩产能并且能削减资本支出，他们就不会随便买下价值超过 480 亿美元的 Neocoud 合同了… 市场有时候就是这么傻。
- English · 原文Photonics is backed by actual revenue numbers and it's an architectural shift championed by $NVDA. Quantum barely has any revenue. $LITE is completely sold out for the next 2 years (per $POET AGM) likely starting into 2029. Lumentum is so strained that they buy CW lasers off competitors (earnings transcript) $COHR is bottlenecked, so they buy EML off Lumentum. Then, $AAOI is coming in with Made-in-America independent CW capacity, are projecting $1.4B/quarterly revenue ending H1 2027 of a stupid $9.3B MC today. So all the CW capacity from independent players who have it now like $AAOI or $SIVE are likely to become scarce resources. Many other hyperscalers have already started LTA discussions (per Trendforce). And players like $AMD are currently talking with players such as $AAOI (Rosenblatt channel checks). Thematically, next 2 years is 9x TAM to US$154B per GS reports, especially with 16x/45x dollar content increase in scale out/scale up. Then there's the overall thematic AI drop from $META, which is widely misunderstood because people conflate what "excess capacity" means. And as UBS mentioned, Meta planning a cloud offering is NOT NEW NEWS. Bloomberg just has a tendency to publish information that causes doom drops across the semi sector like Nvidia export controls a few months back. But I'm familiar with what I'm holding so I'm confident in these numbers playing out. Especially when all the major players are sold out, the fundamentals catch up eventually.中文 · 翻译光子技术是有实实在在的营收数据支撑的，而且这是 $NVDA 大力推动的架构转型。 量子技术则几乎没什么营收。 根据 $POET 股东大会的消息，$LITE 未来两年（可能从2029年开始）的产品已经完全售罄。Lumentum 的产能非常紧张，甚至要从竞争对手那里购买连续波激光器（财报电话会议记录里提到了）。 $COHR 则卡在瓶颈上，所以他们向 Lumentum 购买 EML。 接着，$AAOI 正带着“美国制造”的独立连续波产能入局，他们预计到2027年上半年，季度营收将达到14亿美元，要知道它今天市值才93亿美元，简直太低了。 所以，现在像 $AAOI 或 $SIVE 这样拥有独立连续波产能的厂商，他们的产能很可能会变成稀缺资源。 很多其他超大规模数据中心厂商已经开始谈长期供货协议（来自 Trendforce 的消息）。而像 $AMD 这样的公司，目前正在和 $AAOI 等厂商洽谈（Rosenblatt 的渠道调研显示）。 从主题上看，根据 GS（高盛）的报告，未来两年市场总规模（TAM）将增长9倍，达到1540亿美元，特别是在横向扩展/纵向扩展方面，每美元内容投入将分别增加16倍/45倍。 然后还有来自 $META 的关于 AI 的整体主题性下跌，这被很多人误解了，因为大家混淆了“过剩产能”的真正含义。而且正如 UBS（瑞银）提到的，Meta 计划提供云服务并不是什么新鲜事。 彭博社就是有这种倾向，喜欢发布导致半导体行业全面暴跌的消息，就像几个月前关于英伟达出口管制的那次。 但我很清楚自己持有的是什么，所以我对这些数据会实现很有信心。 尤其是在所有主要玩家都产能售罄的情况下，基本面终究会追上来的。
- English · 原文Just some notes on $POET AGM and read through on optical markets: - "The top three laser suppliers control 68% of the market, and they’re completely sold out for the next two years" $LITE CEO said into 2028, so POET implicitly confirms laser shortage is going into 2029 now. - NRE with a new customer, building on POET’s interposer for high-power external light source. This is high confidence $SIVE as laser supplier given the Sept 29, 2025 PR on ELS, and new customer qualification would be material for revenue if it goes into volume ramp. - Poet expects Lumilens commercial agreement to scale to over $500 million over the next 5 years. Lumilens claimed a top-3 hyperscaler was their initial customer (Linkedin OSINT) - $830M cash on hand on balance sheet (this is more for Poet fundamentals). - "The entire optical components industry today is facing a severe shortage of critical components." Reaffirming what we know already regarding optical bottlenecks. - "Production ramp in the second half of 2026 this year." Just production timelines H2. In terms of $POET volumes: - existing capacity around 1 million optical engines per year - projected demand exiting 2027 around 1 million optical engines per month - roughly 10x capacity expansion I don't own Poet, but if management delivers on these projections it directionally looks very positive. However something to note is that unlike other suppliers that have named hyperscaler customers to to back up capacity revenues like $AAOI: $POET seems more questionable. But this does look like a very positive outlook for $POET if they match projections.中文 · 翻译只是关于 $POET 股东大会的一些笔记，以及对光学市场的一些解读： - "排名前三的激光器供应商控制了 68% 的市场，而且他们未来两年的产能已经全部售罄" $LITE 的 CEO 说的是到 2028 年，所以 POET 等于变相确认了激光器短缺会持续到 2029 年。 - 与一个新客户签订了 NRE（一次性工程费）协议，基于 POET 的中介层用于高功率外部光源。 考虑到 2025 年 9 月 29 日关于 ELS 的新闻稿，这很可能是 $SIVE 作为激光器供应商，如果进入量产爬坡，这个新客户的认证将对营收产生实质影响。 - POET 预计与 Lumilens 的商业协议在未来 5 年内规模将超过 5 亿美元。 Lumilens 声称一家排名前三的超大规模客户是他们的初始客户（通过 LinkedIn 开源情报）。 - 资产负债表上有 8.3 亿美元现金（这更偏向 POET 的基本面）。 - "整个光学元件行业目前正面临关键元器件的严重短缺。" 再次印证了我们已知的光学瓶颈问题。 - "2026 年下半年开始量产爬坡。" 只是 H2（下半年）的生产时间表。 关于 $POET 的产量： - 现有产能约为每年 100 万个光学引擎 - 预计到 2027 年底的需求约为每月 100 万个光学引擎 - 大约需要扩大 10 倍产能 我不持有 Poet，但如果管理层能兑现这些预测，方向上看是非常积极的。 不过有一点需要注意的是，与其他有明确超大规模客户来支撑产能收入的供应商（如 $AAOI）不同，$POET 似乎更值得怀疑。 但如果他们能实现这些预测，这对 $POET 来说确实是一个非常积极的展望。
- English · 原文Honestly this decade from 2020-2030 might be the most goated in human history. - Scaling massive reusable rockets for orbital compute with $RKLB to $SPCX. - on the cusp of ASI and recursive learning with Anthropic and OpenAI - Backflipping Boston Dynamics and Unitree humanoids to replace the human workforce - Star Wars laser beams from $EOS.ASX to AI DC lasers like $LITE. - Waymo and $TSLA self driving cars everywhere in urban cities - and we get industry Quantum commercialization end of decade This is kinda crazy to be an investor in this timeframe. Feels like every movie from the Star Wars Death Star to Skynet is coming to life. What’s next?中文 · 翻译说实话，2020-2030 这十年可能是人类历史上最牛批的（goated）十年。 - 借助 $RKLB 到 $SPCX，把大规模可重复使用火箭搞起来，用于轨道计算。 - 跟 Anthropic 和 OpenAI 一起，站在超级人工智能（ASI）和递归学习的临界点上。 - Boston Dynamics 和 Unitree 的人形机器人翻着后空翻，要来取代人类劳动力。 - 从 $EOS.ASX 的《星球大战》激光束，到 $LITE 这样的 AI 数据中心激光器。 - Waymo 和 $TSLA 的自动驾驶汽车，在城市里到处都是。 - 而且到本十年末，我们还能看到量子计算的商业化。 在这个时间段当投资者，真的有点疯狂。感觉就像从《星球大战》的死星到《终结者》的天网，每一部电影都在变成现实。 接下来是什么？
- English · 原文$SPCX / Elon Musk acquires Mesh, an optical networking startup. Which is working on 1.6T OSFP (pluggable). It’s seems they own the optical engine/packaging side of things, but likely sources CW DFB lasers off merchant companies. $SIVE is one of the more startup friendly plausible merchant suppliers as seen with Ayar to $POET? Maybe $LITE and $MTSI that were have a little history too, but less so. Regardless it’s very positive a lot of startups recently like Celestial have been acquired by Marvell. For both merchant laser supplier revenue (working with startups -> having hyperscalers like SpaceX drive revenue after being designed in already). As well as valuations from M&A desirability. Goes to show how optical interconnects is the right direction if Elon Musk is directly buying these companies.中文 · 翻译$SPCX / 埃隆·马斯克收购了光网络初创公司 Mesh。 这家公司正在研发 1.6T OSFP（可插拔模块）。 看起来他们掌握光学引擎/封装技术，但很可能会从外部供应商那里采购 CW DFB 激光器。 $SIVE 是其中一家对初创公司比较友好的潜在商业供应商，就像 Ayar 与 $POET 的合作那样？ 也许 $LITE 和 $MTSI 也有一点历史渊源，但可能性小一些。 不管怎样，最近很多初创公司（比如 Celestial）被 Marvell 收购，这是非常积极的信号。 对商业激光器供应商的收入来说（与初创公司合作 → 被设计进去后，像 SpaceX 这样的超大规模客户会带来收入）。 对并购带来的估值也有好处。 这也说明，如果埃隆·马斯克直接买下这些公司，光互连就是正确的方向。
- English · 原文OFC I'm aware. But I'm personally sleeping comfortably since I have conviction in my hyperscaler mapping research with $SIVE. And yes, I still have my million+ share position. Not sure if people realize this: but I'm only here to share my thoughts/ideas. I don't control market volatility, what decisions you all make, or how markets react to new information synthesis. It's much safer for analysts to just reactively tag along Morgan Stanley/JP Morgan/Goldman Sachs research whenever it's created and just summarize. Rather than coming up with new ideas from OSINT mapping and waiting them get validated. Because when you discover a new angle: Everyone keeps heatedly debating topics of 4-6 inch InP fabs, employee count, who their hyperscaler customers are, volume ramp timelines, etc to try and play devils advocate with a thesis. Then actively monitoring every single 5-20% price movement. I'm forced to stay on this topic more since it's less validated + there's always heated discussions. Just like $EWY in Feb, which I did memory projections on + Helium/LNG/Oil analysis. But months later everyone sees memory looks structural with Micron's 16+ LTAs and LNG isn't taking down SK Hynix margins. Or $NBIS from last year in terms of sum-of-parts / dilution structures vs $IREN. And now it's close to ATHs and listed on $QQQ. I'm personally just waiting Sivers to volume ramp in 2027 + listing on NASDAQ to support their M&A efforts. So they can walk down the same path as $LITE when they scaled from $3B to $60B+.中文 · 翻译我当然知道。但我个人睡得挺安稳，因为我对自己的超大规模数据中心映射研究有底气，而且持有 $SIVE。 没错，我还是拿着那一百多万股的头寸。 不知道大家有没有意识到：我来这里就是分享我的想法和观点。 我控制不了市场波动，也管不了你们怎么做决定，更左右不了市场对新信息整合的反应。 对分析师来说，最安全的做法就是摩根士丹利/摩根大通/高盛一出报告就跟着附和，然后总结一下。 而不是自己从开源情报（OSINT）映射里琢磨新想法，再等它们被验证。 因为当你发现一个新角度时： 每个人都在激烈争论 4-6 英寸磷化铟晶圆厂、员工数量、他们的超大规模客户是谁、产能爬坡时间线等等，就为了跟你唱反调。 然后还要时刻盯着每一个 5%-20% 的价格波动。 我不得不更频繁地讨论这个标的，因为它还没被充分验证，而且总是有激烈的争论。就像 2 月的 $EWY，我当时做了内存预测，还分析了氦气/液化天然气/石油。 但几个月后，大家看到内存结构变得稳固（美光签了 16 份以上的长期协议），液化天然气也没把 SK 海力士的利润打下来。 还有去年的 $NBIS，当时在谈分部估值/摊薄结构 vs $IREN。 现在它接近历史新高，还进了 $QQQ 指数。 我本人只是在等 Sivers 在 2027 年产能爬坡，并在纳斯达克上市来支持他们的并购活动。 这样他们就能走 $LITE 当年的路——从 30 亿美元市值涨到 600 亿美元以上。
- English · 原文FYI, I posted ideas about $AXTI at $15, $AAOI at $30, $TSEM at $115, $LITE $300, $MU $300, $SNDK $400, $EWY $110, $SIVE $4. $IQE $13, $SOI $44 and so on. So when they finally have a massive correction due to macro drop the ideas are wrong? And most are still up a few hundred percent. TW CPO names are just really early and I’m down a lot on those but I expect them to recover in due time.中文 · 翻译说一下，我在 $AXTI 15 美元、$AAOI 30 美元、$TSEM 115 美元、$LITE 300 美元、$MU 300 美元、$SNDK 400 美元、$EWY 110 美元、$SIVE 4 美元的时候发过看多观点。 还有 $IQE 13 美元、$SOI 44 美元之类的。 所以，等这些票因为宏观暴跌而大幅回调时，我的观点就错了？可大部分涨幅依然还有几百个百分点呢。 台股 CPO 那几只只是启动太早了，我在这上面亏了不少，但我预期它们到时候会涨回来的。
- English · 原文@Zenctwill $MU earnings are probably a good read through on SK Hynix/Samsung, which is majority of KOSPI weighting (passively too). So seems more likely than not for SK index. It’s also a positive read through on AI demand, which is why $LITE, $AAOI, and others jumped a tiny bit AH.中文 · 翻译@Zenctwill $MU 的财报可能对 SK 海力士/三星有很好的参考意义，这两家占了 KOSPI 指数的大部分权重（被动资金也是）。所以 SK 指数走高的概率更大。 这对 AI 需求也是个积极的信号，这也是为什么 $LITE、$AAOI 和其他股票在盘后小幅上涨。
- English · 原文Curious if anyone's portfolio is green after today's fun day. $KORU: -32.06% $SOXL: -22.98% $IQE: -13.58% $DRAM: -12.6% $AXTI: -12.57% $FLNC: -12.5% $AAOI: -11.2% $SIVE: -11.7% $TSEM: -10.24% $SNDK: -12.5% $MU: -11.8% Sk Hynix: -12.35% Samsung: -9.6% $MRVL: -8.3% $LITE: -7.6% $SOI -7.15% $TSM: -6.1% $AMD: -6.04% Feels like anything high-beta or semis had a steep drop.中文 · 翻译好奇今天这么嗨的日子，有谁的投资组合还是红的吗？ $KORU：-32.06% $SOXL：-22.98% $IQE：-13.58% $DRAM：-12.6% $AXTI：-12.57% $FLNC：-12.5% $AAOI：-11.2% $SIVE：-11.7% $TSEM：-10.24% $SNDK：-12.5% $MU：-11.8% SK 海力士：-12.35% 三星：-9.6% $MRVL：-8.3% $LITE：-7.6% $SOI -7.15% $TSM：-6.1% $AMD：-6.04% 感觉只要是高贝塔或者半导体相关的，都跌得很惨。
- English · 原文@SaiseiInvesting No, 0 clue why people invest in those types of ETFs. - You have the most basic names you can buy yourself like $LITE / $COHR as heaviest weights, where they take management fees. - Names not adjacent to AI DCs.中文 · 翻译@SaiseiInvesting 不，完全搞不懂为什么有人会买那种ETF。 - 里面最重的仓位就是些你自己就能买的普通标的，比如 $LITE / $COHR，它们还要收管理费。 - 还都是一些跟AI数据中心不沾边的公司。
- English · 原文@jeongpark0509 No price target, but I like to keep in mind: $LITE went from 2.88B MC in 2024, to $67B MC in 2026. Just took 2 years and $SIVE is around the same starting point as Lumentum today.中文 · 翻译@jeongpark0509 没给目标价，但我心里记得： $LITE 从 2024 年的 28.8 亿市值，涨到 2026 年的 670 亿市值。 也就花了两年，而 $SIVE 今天的起点跟 Lumentum 当初差不多。
- English · 原文We're in a massive EML bottleneck right now and CW lasers are getting bottlenecked now too. To my knowledge, $COHR is buying EMLs off $LITE because they can't make enough. $LITE is majority allocated to EML, so they can't make enough CW lasers. So they're buying CW lasers off competitors from their ER transcript, (probably Sumitomo, Furukawa and others), which likely feeds into $NVDA contracts. Then $AMD and your hyperscalers need capacity too but we're already in a shortage. Any capacity that comes online would likely be bought, since looks like we're in a shortage for next few years (lumentum already sold out into 2028). Not quite the same as your sk hynix/samsung/micron memory dynamic but there's still a massive moat with EML with probably only single digit amounts of players able to do this.中文 · 翻译现在 EML 产能严重堵塞，CW 激光器也开始卡脖子了。 据我所知，$COHR 正从 $LITE 手里买 EML，因为他们自己产量不够。 $LITE 大部分产线都给了 EML，所以也没余力生产足够多的 CW 激光器。 于是他们（从财报电话会里透露）开始向竞争对手买 CW 激光器——可能是住友、古河等——而这些货源大概率最终流进 $NVDA 的订单里。 然后 $AMD 和你那些超大规模客户也急需产能，但我们早就供不应求了。 现在但凡有新产能上线，基本都会被抢光，因为看起来未来几年都会持续短缺（Lumentum 都已经卖到了 2028 年）。 这和 SK 海力士/三星/美光的存储芯片情况不太一样，但 EML 的护城河依然很深，能做的玩家可能一只手就数得过来。
- English · 原文I've been getting a lot of questions about OE Solutions (138080) recently. Here's my research/thoughts so far on it: They're a small Korean optical transceiver company, similar to $AAOI. And they've become one the few EML players in the world (eg. $COHR, $LITE, Mitsubishi, Source, Sumitomo), with scarce 100G EML laser capacity for 800G/1.6T. OE appears to be trying to make the full transceiver, not just the EML. They also have finished ELSFP CPO products, with UHP CW lasers, which is sampling Q3. Likewise, OE also seems to be building out the full ELSFP, rather than selling CW laser dies, so that's more market share. So you can think of it as Korean AAOI but EML instead of CW, and less capacity/qualifications. And playing catch-up to the rest of the world. However in terms of timelines: 1. 23dBm cooled ELSFP samples start in Q3 2026 2. Sales base for 800G, and 2027 1.6T "full force" 3. Late H2 2027, H1 2028 onward probably their ELSFP enters the volume production. And it seems they're working on 200G EML capability from their investor snipper 2025 OE IR snippet referenced “100GBaud EML / 200G PAM". This seems promising given their IP/demos. ELS has just been unveiled recently, sampling starts Q3. 800G/1.6T Optical transceivers are also likely 2027. So this is basically Korea's sovereign photonics player, playing catchup to $LITE, $AAOI, and the bigger players. (Disclosure: I have positions in OE Solutions (138080). This is fundamental research for informational purposes, not financial advice). As for OE solution valuations: 1. Doesn't seem like there's confirmed customers yet for these growth verticals. 2. Probably not many people understood what they're building toward yet. 3. Yields data kinda uncertain 1. Customers: We're actually in a major EML/CW laser shortage, so any independent capacity will be sought after. I personally don't think they'll have a hard time finding customers here. I would assume anything they make might get bought out and would get extra support from Korea. 2. Institutional support: Probably not much since it doesn't meet threshold for many US institution given MC size + KR listing. I also don't think many people understood what they're building yet. 3. Yields/Capacity: OE's disclosed wafer/module utilization is low (i remember was around 31% underutilized off the top of my head), so there's enough material revenue they can generate before they need to spend on capex. I'm also not sure about EML/CW and other yields. Probably need to go ask the company. Is this some random crap co? No. It's been doing optical transceivers stuff for more than 20Y, has R&D in the U.S. and Netherlands. But their entire AI growth vertical seems to happen next year, and hinges mainly around capacity/yields. And I personally think the EML/CW tech is probably worth a lot more than their current MC, if it were an acquisition target. Especially from a larger player that wanted to vertically integrate EML for pluggables and CW lasers for CPO. Markets are probably waiting on more certainty around qualifications after Q3 sampling or earnings projections announcements. TLDR on thoughts: Some of my friends discussed this last year, was probably way too early. Saw it got many comments 2 months ago, still too early. I still think now is early, but later in Q3-Q4 might be more interesting. I personally think it's a lot higher risk than a major CPO player like $SIVE, that's embedded in Ayar, $JBL, $GFS, and many other hyperscaler suppliers. Which also has Win Semi and others de-risking volume ramp. As OE Solutions looks like a new player trying to build out an $AAOI for the optical transceivers but sovereign EML and CW laser production for CPO products. And there's a lot of answered questions around customers + volume ramp, which presents material risk. But if you believe Korea can build out an 800G/1.6T transceiver EML supply chain and ELSFP with CW lasers. With OE Solutions, it might be worth taking a look into. Still researching the company tho, just initial thoughts.中文 · 翻译最近好多人在问我 OE Solutions (138080) 这家公司。 这是我目前的研究和想法： 这是一家韩国的小型光收发器公司，跟 $AAOI 有点像。 而且他们已经成为全球为数不多的 EML 玩家之一（比如 $COHR、$LITE、三菱、Source、住友），手握稀缺的 100G EML 激光器产能，专门用于 800G/1.6T。 OE 看起来不光想造 EML，还想做完整的收发器。他们已经有了成品 ELSFP CPO 产品，配上 UHP CW 激光器，Q3 开始送样。 同样地，OE 似乎也在整完整的 ELSFP 方案，而不是只卖 CW 激光晶粒，这样能抢到更多市场份额。 所以你可以把它理解成"韩国版的 AAOI"，但用的是 EML 而不是 CW，产能和认证方面还差点火候，目前是在追赶世界其他玩家。 时间线上来看： 1. 23dBm 制冷的 ELSFP 样品，2026 年 Q3 开始送样 2. 800G 的销售基础，2027 年 1.6T "全面发力" 3. 2027 年 H2 末、2028 年 H1 及以后，ELSFP 可能进入放量生产 而且从他们 2025 年投资者简报片段来看，似乎还在搞 200G EML 能力——简报里提到"100GBaud EML / 200G PAM"。考虑到他们的 IP 和 demo，这个方向挺有戏。 ELS 才刚发布不久，Q3 开始送样。800G/1.6T 光收发器大概率也是 2027 年。 所以这基本上是韩国的光子学国家队，正在追赶 $LITE、$AAOI 和那些更大的玩家。 （持仓披露：我持有 OE Solutions (138080) 仓位。这只是基本面研究，仅供参考，不构成投资建议。） 关于 OE Solutions 的估值： 1. 这些增长方向目前似乎还没有确认的客户。 2. 可能没多少人真正理解他们在做什么。 3. 良率数据有些不清晰。 1. 客户方面：现在其实正处于 EML/CW 激光器大缺货周期，所以任何独立的产能都会被抢着要。我个人觉得他们找客户不难。我甚至认为他们造出来的东西可能都会被扫货，还会获得韩国政府的额外支持。 2. 机构支持：可能不多，因为市值小 + 韩国上市，很多美国机构根本够不上门槛。我也觉得没多少人真正理解他们在搞什么。 3. 良率/产能：OE 公布的晶圆/模组利用率很低（我记得大概有 31% 的产能闲置），所以他们在需要砸资本开支之前，光靠现有的产能就能产生可观的收入。 至于 EML/CW 以及其他良率，我也不太确定。可能得直接去问公司。 这是不是一家随便的烂公司？不是。人家做光收发器已经超过 20 年了，在美国和荷兰都有研发。 但他们整个 AI 增长方向看起来要到明年才爆发，而且主要取决于产能和良率。 我个人觉得，如果 EML/CW 技术被收购的话，它的价值可能远超目前市值。 尤其是被那些想垂直整合 EML（用于可插拔模块）和 CW 激光器（用于 CPO）的大玩家收购。 市场可能在等 Q3 送样后的认证结果或者营收预期公告，才敢下定论。 总结我的想法： 去年就有朋友讨论过这家公司，当时可能太早了。两个月前看到评论区热闹起来，依然太早。 我现在还是觉得早，但到了 Q3 和 Q4 可能就会变得有意思起来。我个人认为它的风险比 $SIVE 这种深度嵌入 Ayar、$JBL、$GFS 和一堆超大规模供应商的 CPO 大玩家要高得多。$SIVE 还有 Win Semi 等公司在帮忙摊薄量产风险。 而 OE Solutions 看起来更像是一个新手玩家，想照着 $AAOI 的模式去造光收发器，但走的又是主权 EML 和 CW 激光器路线，面向 CPO 产品。 现在关于客户和量产爬坡的问题还有很多没解答，这本身就有实质风险。 但如果你相信韩国能建立 800G/1.6T 收发器 EML 供应链，以及带 CW 激光器的 ELSFP 方案。 那么 OE Solutions 或许值得一看。我还在继续研究这家公司，目前只是初步想法。
- English · 原文Yes, choosing the right theme is extremely important. Even if $POET doesn't really do anything, it still gets brought up thematically due to $LITE, $COHR, and others. Even if $RDDT outperforms extremely hard, it still gets brought down from $META, $MSFT, $CRM, and other software basket names.中文 · 翻译没错，选对主题极其重要。 就算 $POET 本身没什么动作，它也会因为 $LITE、$COHR 和其他股票而被带到主题上来。 就算 $RDDT 表现极其强势，它还是会因为 $META、$MSFT、$CRM 以及其他软件篮子里的票而被拖下来。
- English · 原文Trendforce reports that $AMD is actively trying to secure CW laser supply with multiple major procurement orders... Is probably just the start of the bottleneck? There's not much independent capacity in Western supply chains left other than $SIVE or $AAOI and maybe Macom. Especially after Lumentum/Coherent got locked up with multi-year agreements with Nvidia. (disclosure, own Sive and aaoi) Lumentum is already CW laser constrained and is likely buying off Japanese companies like Sumitomo/Furukawa if I had to guess per ER, and those are probably running at max capacity. From the Trendforce report, this is: "to ensure that its future capacity will not be constrained by NVIDIA and other major Cloud Service Providers (CSPs)." I wouldn't be surprised if other hyperscalers like Amazon, Microsoft, and others saw Nvidia / AMD signing LTAs, and are trying to secure capacity next. A lot of it is game theory on not getting choked out by competitors, and looks like AMD is tipping the first domino after Nvidia. But my opinion is that this just goes and show how invaluable this CW laser chokepoint is and the companies are inside it.中文 · 翻译Trendforce 报道说 $AMD 正在积极争取 CW 激光供应，下了好几笔大采购订单…… 这可能只是瓶颈的开始吧？ 西方供应链中，除了 $SIVE 和 $AAOI，可能还有 Macom 之外，已经没多少独立的产能了。 尤其是在 Lumentum/Coherent 和英伟达签了好几年协议，产能都被锁住之后。（披露：持有 Sive 和 aaoi） Lumentum 的 CW 激光供应已经很紧张了，根据财报我猜他们可能正在从住友/古河电工这类日本公司那里采购，而这些公司大概也已经满负荷运转了。 根据 Trendforce 的报告，这是： “为了确保其未来的产能不会受到英伟达和其他主要云服务提供商（CSP）的限制。” 如果亚马逊、微软等其他超大规模企业看到英伟达/AMD 签署了长期协议，然后也开始争取产能，我一点也不会感到惊讶。 很大程度上这是一种博弈论，为了不被竞争对手卡脖子，看起来英伟达之后，AMD 正在推倒第一块多米诺骨牌。 但我的看法是，这恰好说明了 CW 激光这个“瓶颈”有多么宝贵，以及处于这个瓶颈中的公司有多重要。
- English · 原文I’m not sure why many folks are super bearish on my high conviction $AAOI long… Ever since $30, then on the way up to $170. (Yes I do think every bear is wrong, we’ll see who’s right). They have scarce laser capacity that $AMD and other hyperscalers are looking for. While the entire industry is bottlenecked by $NVDA. Along with a US transceiver supply chain for mass production of 800g/1.6T (management - largest in America). While demand far exceeds supply and while assembly gets outsourced to Asia. Then they’re quoting $471M monthly revenue in H1 entering H2 of 2027. Which is $5.6B ARR, off a $13.5B MC… While a lot of major inflection volume hits even later in 2028. As for fluctuations, there might be active $600M ATMs that get tapped into at random times. And random bear posts + macro from time to time that cause more volatility (eg. Analyst notes saying bear on $LITE due to false CPO delay rumors, then that brings down others in the sector). Also we’re a year out so timelines are still a little early. I haven’t seen such fast revenue ramp since $NBIS.中文 · 翻译不太理解为什么很多人对我的重仓多头 $AAOI 极度看空…… 从 $30 开始，一路涨到 $170 的时候都有人看空。（对，我就是觉得每个空头都错了，咱们看看最后谁对。） 他们有稀缺的激光产能，这正是 $AMD 和其他超大规模数据中心在找的。 而整个行业都被 $NVDA 卡着瓶颈。 加上他们有美国本土的收发器供应链，用于大规模生产 800g/1.6T（管理层表示——这是全美最大的）。 同时需求远超供给，而组装环节却外包到了亚洲。 然后他们给出的指引是，2027 年上半年到下半年过渡期间，月营收 4.71 亿美元。这相当于年化经常性收入 56 亿美元，而市值才 135 亿美元…… 而且到了 2028 年更晚的时候，还有大量重要的爆发量会出现。 至于波动，可能时不时会有 6 亿美元的活跃 ATM 增发被拿出来用。 再加上时不时冒出来的随机看空帖子和宏观因素，导致更大波动（比如某分析师报告因为假的 CPO 延迟传闻看空 $LITE，结果把板块内其他股票也带下来了）。 另外我们离那个时间点还有一年，所以时间线确实还有点早。 自打 $NBIS 之后，我就没见过这么快的营收爬坡。
- English · 原文@aletir99 When has US investors ever cared about what people in Sweden think? I still think $SIVE has the potential to be the next $75B $LITE if they follow the same M&A route after NASDAQ Listing.中文 · 翻译@aletir99 美国投资者什么时候在乎过瑞典人怎么想了？ 我仍然觉得 $SIVE 有潜力成为下一个 750 亿美元的 $LITE，只要他们上了纳斯达克之后走同样的并购路线。
- English · 原文Fun throwback to random ideas back in 2025. Back then, $AAOI was $2B MC, $LITE was a $26B MC, $AXTI was $500M Now: - AAOI is $15.37B - Lumentum is $74.47B - AXT is $7.24B Was working off less information back then, given it was an early theme. Obviously nuances with ASIC programs might have been missed as more details came out. But directionally, glad thematically my ideas turned out correct. Feels like dejavu seeing current $3B MC optical longs like $SIVE.中文 · 翻译回顾一下2025年那些天马行空的想法，挺有意思的。 那个时候，$AAOI市值20亿美元，$LITE市值260亿美元，$AXTI市值5亿美元。 现在： - AAOI市值153.7亿美元 - Lumentum市值744.7亿美元 - AXT市值72.4亿美元 当时信息更少，毕竟还是个早期主题。 当然，随着更多细节浮出水面，ASIC项目的一些细微差别可能被我忽略了。 但方向上看，很高兴我的主题思路最终是正确的。 看着现在市值30亿美元的光学多头标的，比如$SIVE，感觉就像是既视感。
- English · 原文Other way around, $NVDA bottlenecked the entire industry for EML capacity. And did the same with CW capacity ONCE AGAIN with $LITE, $COHR, and $MRVL (if they have LTA in place with Celestial) I said this a few months ago, we'd see this exact same playbook. But $AMD, $AMZN, $META, and others are just so stupidly slow that they let themselves get bottlenecked. Now there's only a few merchant players like $AAOI, $MTSI, and $SIVE that they all need to fight over.中文 · 翻译反过来看，是 $NVDA 卡住了整个行业在 EML 产能上的脖子。 而且它又干了一次同样的事情——在 CW 产能上，把 $LITE、$COHR 和 $MRVL 也给卡住了（前提是他们跟 Celestial 签了长期协议）。 我几个月前就说过，我们会看到完全一样的剧本。但 $AMD、$AMZN、$META 这些家伙动作慢得离谱，结果让自己也被卡在瓶颈里。 现在只剩少数几家商业玩家了，比如 $AAOI、$MTSI 和 $SIVE，大家都得争着抢。
- English · 原文New reports that $AMD is scrambling for CW laser supply. And is negotiating large-scale purchase orders for CW Lasers to ensure its production capacity is not constrained by $NVDA (Trendforce) Obvious CW laser beneficiaries: - $SIVE (AMD went to GFS for CPO, Sivers reference laser level) - $AAOI (Rosenblatt analyst checks) Lumentum/Coherent are kinda booked out way into 2028 as well. Lumentum is especially constrained for CW capacity already from existing EML contracts (so they probably are buying from Sumitomo/Furukawa and co). Maybe Macom and Japanese giants still have spare capacity. (disclosure, own aaoi/sivers). I predicted this last year and said hyperscalers should go more upstream to secure capacity... at laser levels, epiwafer levels, or even inp substrate levels. To not get bottlenecked by Nvidia.中文 · 翻译最新消息称 $AMD 正在疯狂寻找 CW 激光器供应。 并且正在洽谈大规模购买 CW 激光器的采购订单，以确保其产能不受 $NVDA 限制（Trendforce 消息） 明显的 CW 激光器受益方： - $SIVE（AMD 找 GFS 做 CPO，Sivers 是参考激光级别） - $AAOI（Rosenblatt 分析师的调研确认） Lumentum/Coherent 的产能基本已经排到 2028 年了。 Lumentum 的 CW 产能尤其紧张，因为已经签了很多 EML 合同（所以他们可能正在向 Sumitomo/Furukawa 等厂商采购）。 也许 Macom 和日本巨头还有多余产能。（声明：我持有 aaoi/sivers）。 我去年就预测过，说过超大规模云厂商应该更向上游去锁定产能……在激光器层级、外延片层级、甚至 InP 衬底层级。 这样才能不被 Nvidia 卡脖子。
- English · 原文Ayar started off multi-sourcing with $MTSI and $LITE. Then removed them from their website and likely made $SIVE primary source (likely for first gen). It's every hyperscaler supplier intention to multi-source, there's nothing material being added there. Ayar is one of the bigger CPO players, but if CPO mapping is correct more revenue should come from $MRVL Celestial, maybe Lightmatter/Lightelligence. Ayar is also just one customer of many... This is not even including $JBL + other pluggable players that use $SIVE. Or even O-Net producing ELS with $SIVE for Asian supply chains. Nobody can accurately estimate revenues right now, it's just that they've been qualified into so many different hyperscaler supply chains like what I've done previously with $AAOI or $AEHR. That when volume ramp happens... And it's a hyperscaler supplier, you expect revenue numbers to be extremely material.中文 · 翻译Ayar 一开始是跟 $MTSI 和 $LITE 做多源采购。 然后把他们从官网撤掉了，很可能让 $SIVE 成了主供（大概率是第一代产品）。 每个超大规模云供应商都想搞多源采购，这没什么实质性的新信息。 Ayar 是 CPO 领域比较大的玩家之一，但如果 CPO 的对应关系没错，更大头的收入应该来自 $MRVL 的 Celestial，也许还有 Lightmatter/Lightelligence。 再说 Ayar 也只是众多客户中的一个……这还没算 $JBL 和其他用 $SIVE 的可插拔模块厂商。 甚至还包括 O-Net 在亚洲供应链中用 $SIVE 生产 ELS。 现在谁也准确估算不了营收，关键在于他们已经被认证进了这么多不同的超大规模云供应链——就像我之前追踪 $AAOI 或 $AEHR 时的情况一样。 一旦量开始爬坡……而且它是个超大规模云供应商，你就该预期营收数字会非常可观。
- English · 原文$SIVE is the next SIVE. Don’t think you’ll find another company. That’s qualified and likely primary/sole source with: - $JBL and other pluggable hyperscaler suppliers - Ayar and the $NVDA NVLink CPO ecosystems While being the foundational reference laser for $GFS and pluggable/CPO/NPO deployments. That hyperscalers like $AMD and others use, at current valuations. Even $POET buys $SIVE lasers and Poet is about the same valuation just off having one $50m purchase agreement. Amount of hyperscaler suppliers for 2027 into 2028 is just ridiculous. From the general meeting today in a few hours, we’ll hopefully see NASDAQ listing timelines confirmed. So they can have room for M&A to TAM expansion and to make each laser they sell more valuable. Following what $LITE did to grow into a $75B company.中文 · 翻译$SIVE 就是下一个 $SIVE。 别指望能找到第二家这样的公司。 具备资质、并且很可能是主要/独家供应商，对接的是： - $JBL 以及其他可插拔超大规模客户供应商 - Ayar 和 $NVDA NVLink CPO 生态系统 同时还是 $GFS 以及可插拔/CPO/NPO 部署方案的基础参考激光器。 而且像 $AMD 和其他超大规模客户都在用，以当前的估值来看。 就连 $POET 也要买 $SIVE 的激光器，而 Poet 的估值跟 $SIVE 差不多，只不过靠的是那个 $5000 万的采购协议。 2027 到 2028 年的超大规模供应商数量简直离谱。 希望今天几个小时后的大会上，我们能听到纳斯达克上市时间表得到确认。 这样他们才有空间做并购来扩大 TAM（总可寻址市场），并让每一颗售出的激光器都更有价值。 就像当年 $LITE 那样，一步步成长为一家市值 750 亿美元的公司。
- English · 原文@hisarchive lol I’m super bullish on my $SIVE position too. > EU macro positive > $LITE + laser group up 4-6% overnight trading from InP bottleneck easing > possible Nasdaq listing timeline announcement today We’ll see what happens.中文 · 翻译@hisarchive 哈哈，我对我的 $SIVE 头寸也超级看好。 > 欧盟宏观面利好 > $LITE 加上激光板块，隔夜交易涨了 4-6%，原因是 InP 瓶颈缓解 > 今天可能会宣布纳斯达克上市时间表 我们等着瞧吧。
- English · 原文Yep, very stupid to be a bear. When Trump is doing everything to boost markets before Midterms. On top, your $WOLF power semi basket should go brrr from 800 VDC acceleration. $LITE optical basket should go brrr from InP easing. $SPCX successful IPO gives more appetite to risk on themes/IPOs (eg. Space sector). And overall macro go brr from War/Strait peace deals. It’s already kind of showing, since 2026 rate hike odds also crashed from 65% -> 35% following the news. Along with crude futures dropping. I've actually found Europe to be the most price sensitive to Iran tensions, so EU markets would probably be the most bullish overall… (South Korea/TW was originally with Sk Hynix moving directly in correlation to crude oil futures, but stopped caring after awhile). But basically: Murica go brrrr.中文 · 翻译没错，这时候做空真的很蠢。 特朗普在中选前拼了命地拉抬市场。 更别说，你那个 $WOLF 功率半导体组合，在 800V 直流快充加速的推动下，应该要直接起飞了。 $LITE 的光学组合，有了 InP 技术的放宽限制，也该跟着飞。 $SPCX 成功上市，让市场对主题/IPO（比如航天板块）的风险偏好更强了。 宏观层面更是因为战争/台海和平协议而狂欢。 迹象已经很明显了——2026 年加息的概率预期，消息一出直接从 65% 暴跌到 35%。原油期货也在跌。 我反而发现，欧洲对伊朗局势的价格变化最敏感，所以欧股整体上可能是最牛的…… （韩国/台湾那边，之前 SK 海力士的走势跟原油期货直接挂钩，但后来慢慢就不跟着走了。） 但说到底：美利坚，冲就完事了。
- English · 原文This is gonna upset a lot of people: But TA is astrology for traders. It's confirmation bias + trading human psychology about entries. Kinda like how people frontran $SPCE from $SPCX IPO expecting retail to mess up tickers by trading psychology. $SIVE didn't go up 1900% because of the golden cross space comet firebreathing dragon candle that someone is trying to sell for $499. It's because markets are pricing in future revenue from $JBL, $GFS that got announced. $AXTI didn't go up 8000% because the golden waterfall candle alert sounded back at $8. it's because of InP substrate, game theory on ASP hikes, export controls, photonics demand, and others. If you want to figure out psychologically what other regards are believing, you use TA. But for determining the actual upside... nah People have been drawing $120+ TAs on $IREN for the past idk how many months none of that crap matters when there's a $6B ATM that needs to be bought through first. It's by theme (eg. $LITE to $AAOI relations), any news catalysts that affect forward revenue, projections, macro news, earnings, float dynamics, and so on. Then you can just derive what MC that company should be at. So for entry points, sure you can use TA. For determining where the stock heads, just throw the tyrannosaurs rex omega-green candle indicator out the window.中文 · 翻译这肯定要让很多人不高兴了： 但技术分析（TA）对交易者来说，就是占星术。 它就是个确认偏误，再加上利用人们入场交易时的心理。 有点像当初人们在 $SPCX IPO 时抢跑 $SPCE，就是料到散户会因为交易心理搞混股票代码。 $SIVE 涨了
- English · 原文Just some reflection, my core high conviction ideas from 2025 aged super well! From $ALAB: $97-> $372 $LITE: $330 -> $904 $AAOI: $30 -> $175 And others like $NBIS, $RKLB, and $TSM! This was back when I had close to no followers! I got some nuances slightly off before more information was made public. Lost conviction on ALAB along the way with optical transitions. But this was back when AAOI and others were small $3B companies (~$14B now). So maybe some others in the same range today like $SIVE should get some more attention? But I’m happy a lot of them aged super well. And I think a large part of my recent following growth is just other seeing my ideas like $AXTI get validated over time.中文 · 翻译随便回想一下，我在 2025 年那会儿的核心重仓思路，表现一直很稳！ 从 $ALAB：$97 -> $372 $LITE：$330 -> $904 $AAOI：$30 -> $175 还有像 $NBIS、$RKLB 和 $TSM 这些！ 那会儿我几乎都没什么粉丝！ 有些细节在更多信息公开前我稍微判断偏了点。光模块转型那阵子，我对 ALAB 的信念也动摇了。 但这还是在 AAOI 和其他公司还是个小 $30 亿公司的时候（现在大概 $140 亿了）。 所以今天同样级别的公司，比如 $SIVE，是不是也该多关注一下？ 不过我很开心，其中很多票都跑得很稳。 而且我觉得最近粉丝涨得这么快，很大程度上就是大家看到我像 $AXTI 这样的思路，慢慢被市场验证了。
- English · 原文Just in case you’re wondering why indexes + individual names like $SNDK to $MRVL to $LITE are green now. Trump just cancelled attacks on Iran. This market is so volatile… https://t.co/mYzzYeU5rL中文 · 翻译以防你在纳闷，为什么指数和 $SNDK、$MRVL、$LITE 这些个股现在都是涨的。 川普刚刚取消了针对伊朗的攻击。 这个市场实在波动太大…… https://t.co/mYzzYeU5rL
- English · 原文Glad optical players from $LITE to $AAOI and $SIVE are slightly recovering as they should. The initial selloff was just stupid. https://t.co/DsOdQAWf9i中文 · 翻译高兴看到光学板块的股票，从 $LITE 到 $AAOI 和 $SIVE，都在按照应有的节奏小幅回升。 一开始的那波下跌简直是无厘头。https://t.co/DsOdQAWf9i
- English · 原文If you want a TLDR of today: > be $NVDA, $5T company. Force shift to 800V DC and CPO > analyst: I don’t think u can do it in time! > market: “I don’t trust Nvidia, time to sell everything” > Nvidia and Lumentum executives after: Bullish on CPO, timelines accelerating. ???中文 · 翻译如果你想要今天的一个 TLDR： > 你是 $NVDA，一家市值 $5T 的公司。强行转向 800V 直流电和 CPO > 分析师：我觉得你来不及搞定！ > 市场：“我不相信英伟达，是时候清仓了” > 英伟达和 Lumentum 的高管随后：看好 CPO，时间表在加速。 ???
- English · 原文$LITE Management Speech from Mizuho Technology at today’s conference. The company expects to start shipping CPO scale up optical products in the second half of 2027. With formal ramp up in 2028. No delays, as this aligns with previous timelines shared. So today, we also got confirmation from $NVDA SVP no delays on CPO scale out timelines H2 2026, and they’re beginning mass production. And $LITE management also stated no delays on CPO scale up timeline. The leading companies in Nvidia and Lumentum probably know their own timelines the better than incorrect analyst reports telling them no. And both are incredibly bullish on TAM and opportunities.中文 · 翻译今天瑞穗科技在会议上听了 $LITE 管理层的发言。 公司预计 2027 年下半年开始出货 CPO 规模化光学产品。 2028 年正式上量。 没有延期，这与之前分享的时间表一致。 所以今天，我们也得到了 $NVDA 高级副总裁的确认， CPO 规模化时间表没有延期，仍为 2026 年下半年，而且他们已经开始量产。 $LITE 管理层也表示，CPO 规模化时间表没有延期。 英伟达和 Lumentum 这两家领头羊，大概率比那些瞎说"不可能"的分析师报告更清楚自己的时间表。 而且两家都对总可用市场和机会非常看好。
- English · 原文@NathanJoooo This was in response to that erroneous article. I would trust Foxconn/Lumentum/Nvidia industry projections over an analyst firm that messed up $MU HBM4 so badly and said “no” to all their timelines together中文 · 翻译@NathanJoooo 这是针对那篇错误报道的回应。 我更相信富士康/Lumentum/英伟达的行业预测，而不是一家把 $MU HBM4 搞得一塌糊涂、并对所有时间线都说了“不”的调研机构。
- English · 原文CPO scale out earlier than expected: > Foxconn: est. units register upward and optical switches shipped early to $NVDA CPO scale up timelines from $LITE Mizuho Technology Conference today: “The company expects to start shipping Scale-Up optical products in the second half of 2027, with formal volume ramp-up in 2028” SVP $NVDA networking: “We’re going to ramp up CPO second half of this year”. No delay indications. I’m gonna go ahead and trust industry projections. Where they all reiterate faster timelines for scale out CPO H2 onward. And scale up CPO H2 2027 onward (with main growth happening 2028) Over a questionable motive analyst firm that said $MU had no share of HBM4 Rubin (causing a selloff) Where micron went out shortly later to into enter mass production. (Triple digit return shortly after) I think people going long on temporary bridge architectures from this incorrect report won’t be too happy. Appreciate the buying opportunity though.中文 · 翻译CPO 向外扩展时间表比预期提前： > 鸿海：预估单位出货量上修，光交换器提前出货给 $NVDA 今天 $LITE 瑞穗科技大会上的 CPO 向上扩展时间表： “公司预计在 2027 年下半年开始出货向上扩展的光学产品，2028 年正式放量” $NVDA 网络部门 SVP：“我们今年下半年就要开始上量 CPO”。没有任何延期的迹象。 我选择相信行业预测。他们都一致强调：向外扩展的 CPO 下半年起加速；向上扩展的 CPO 从 2027 下半年开始（主要增长在 2028）。 而不是相信动机可疑的分析机构——那家说 $MU 在 HBM4 Rubin 上没有份额（引发了一轮抛售）。 结果美光没过多久就宣布要进入量产（之后不久就翻了好几倍）。 我觉得那些因为这份错误报告而做多临时桥接架构的人，怕是不会太开心。 不过还是要感谢这个买入机会。
- English · 原文I don’t quite think photonics from $AAOI to $LITE or $SIVE are disappearing anytime soon… Just extremely volatile. Anyway, curious what other people are buying today? https://t.co/Io9SVuq583中文 · 翻译我并不觉得 $AAOI、$LITE 或 $SIVE 那边的 photonics 会很快消失… 只是波动实在太大了。 不管怎样，好奇大家今天在买什么？https://t.co/Io9SVuq583
- English · 原文Names like: - $ASX - Sumitomo Electric - $JBL - $VICR - $GFS - $AAOI - AlChip - $TSEM - $FN - Furukawa Electric - $CLS - $NBIS - $NOK - $AMKR - $LITE - $COHR Off the top of my head. So basically, AI exposure trading in the $10-100B range. Likely have compelling ROI right now compared to indexes or $ARM to $MRVL that ran quite a bit? (Just a disclosure, only have financial interest in NBIS/TSEM/AAOI above) I mention a lot of smaller ideas, but that’s just to chase outsized returns. Still feels like many of these have room to go.中文 · 翻译这些公司，我随口一说哈： - $ASX - 住友电气 - $JBL - $VICR - $GFS - $AAOI - 创意电子 (AlChip) - $TSEM - $FN - 古河电气 - $CLS - $NBIS - $NOK - $AMKR - $LITE - $COHR 所以说，基本上就是在市值 100 亿到 1000 亿美元区间的 AI 相关股票。 跟大盘指数或者像 $ARM、$MRVL 这种已经涨了一大截的股票比起来，它们现在的投资回报率可能更吸引人，对吧？ （声明一下，我只对上面提到的 $NBIS、$TSEM、$AAOI 有投资兴趣） 我经常提到很多小盘股，不过也就是为了追求超额回报。 感觉这些公司好多都还有上涨空间。
- English · 原文hmm, i prefer all your upstream chokepoints over $NVDA long term since those will be re-rated the most (nvidia already largest company in the world) pretty sure hyperscaler ASICs would eventually siphon off $NVDA demand like $GOOGL TPU, $AMZN trainium programs. wouldn't be too positive for expontentially compounding revenue growth since hyperscalers were Nvidia's original main revenue stream (even indirect via Neoclouds). But $NVDA's kinda stalling everyone elses buildout by bottlenecking their programs eg. EML/laser capacity agreements years out too. And took stakes in $MRVL / $LITE / $COHR / $INTC etc. making them adopt to $NVDA standards or just owning a large %. So even if they're delaying other programs + their biggest growth vector kinda falls off one day, like how things are shifting already shifting to ASICs for inference. They'll still probably be fine given ownership stakes + will serve companies/countries outside of hyperscaler cash cows (just less revenue)+ made so much before then. But that's probably why p/e keeps going down despite revenues going up, since idk if markets thinks that growth will last forever. Or could be totally wrong and they just keep leapfrogging generation by generation + AI pie keeps growing with Jensen's 4T 2030 capex number.中文 · 翻译嗯，长期来看，我更看好你提到的所有上游瓶颈环节，而不是 $NVDA，因为那些东西的估值重估空间最大（英伟达已经是全球最大公司了）。 我相当确信，超大规模云的 ASIC 最终会分流 $NVDA 的需求，就像 $GOOGL 的 TPU、$AMZN 的 Trainium 项目那样。这对指数级复利的营收增长可不太有利，因为超大规模云本来就是英伟达最初的主要收入来源（甚至通过 Neocloud 这种间接渠道也是）。 不过 $NVDA 也在卡别人脖子，拖慢大家的建设进度，比如把 EML/激光产能协议签到了好几年后。而且它还入股了 $MRVL / $LITE / $COHR / $INTC 等公司，要么让它们采用 $NVDA 的标准，要么直接拿大头股份。 所以，哪怕它拖慢了其他项目 + 自己最大的增长引擎某天会熄火（就像现在推理已经在往 ASIC 转移了）， 考虑到它手里那一堆股权 + 还能继续服务超大规模现金牛之外的公司和国家（虽然收入会少一些）+ 之前早就赚得盆满钵满，它大概率还是能过得不错。 不过，这大概也是为什么它收入一直在涨、市盈率却持续走低的原因——大概市场也不确定这种增长能不能永远持续。 当然，也可能我完全错了，它们就是一代代持续领先 + AI 蛋糕持续做大，配合 Jensen 说的 2030 年 4 万亿 capex 目标。
- English · 原文$AAOI is one of the names I keep averaging up on since $28. Just from random shower thoughts… I feel like it’s just imminent to double or triple if they execute? There’s just too much demand for 800g/1.6T optical transceivers… Then this company is targeting the largest capacity in the US, with extreme vertical integration. I think something to keep in mind is sovereign DCs / T2 AI DCs which increase the demand for 800g as hyperscalers upgrade to 1.6T. So demand for 800g can actually keep increasing… Then there’s the analyst rumors of $AAOI conversations with $AMD / $NVDA. Which is kinda expected given everyone is getting their capacity allocated way into 2028. Nvidia always starts first and causes bottlenecks for everyone else as seen with EML, so not surprising if another hyperscaler learned their lesson this time? Also, everyone seems to be modeling lower ASP at scale. But if this ends up a major bottleneck H1 next year as expected… Could see unexpected price hikes + margin expansion across the board from $AAOI, $LITE, and others not really modeled in.中文 · 翻译$AAOI 是我从$28就开始持续加仓的标的之一。 就是随便洗澡时瞎想……感觉如果他们执行到位，翻倍甚至翻三倍几乎是迟早的事？ 毕竟800G/1.6T光模块的需求实在太大了…… 而这公司瞄准的是美国最大产能，还搞了极端的垂直整合。 我觉得有一点值得记住——主权数据中心 / Tier 2 AI 数据中心也会增加800G的需求，因为超大规模云厂商正在往1.6T升级。 所以800G的需求实际上会持续增长…… 然后还有分析师传言说$AAOI在和$AMD / $NVDA洽谈。考虑到所有人都在抢产能排期到2028年，这其实挺符合预期的。 英伟达总是先动手，然后像EML那样卡住其他人的瓶颈，所以如果这次有另一家超大规模云厂商吸取了教训，也不奇怪吧？ 另外，似乎所有人都在按规模量产后ASP下降来做模型。但如果明年上半年真的像预期那样成为主要瓶颈…… 那可能就会出现意料之外的涨价 + 利润率全面扩张，$AAOI、$LITE 以及其他标的都还没把这点计入模型。
- English · 原文$SIVE looks like both a chokepoint and a bottleneck for CPO next year. Keep seeing information published from nontechnical people who miss any nuances. Here’s the reason why: 1. CW lasers are bottlenecked signaled by $LITE earnings. Laser fabs are heavily allocated to EML likely from former $NVDA contracts. -> Sumitomo/Furukawa = bottleneck -> Win Semi = bottleneck $SIVE does fab-lite, so are they a bottleneck? Yes, $SIVE sits in the laser bottleneck since control output supply of CW lasers from Win Semi and other fabs from allocation way early on (CEO stated they working with more capacity from other players as well). Perfect example is Kioxia/Sandisk. $SNDK controls NAND output, so they’re a bottleneck because they control final pricing. Demand exceeding supply from Ayar, Jabil, other pluggable vendors + Nvidia NVLink CPO ecosystem… final laser supply owned by $SIVE makes Sivers a bottleneck. $SIVE is also likely primary/sole source for Jabil, Gen-1 Ayar, $MRVL Celestial, and other hyperscaler asic/merchant CPO routes. So no way to get around it (can’t hot-swap single channel cw lasers with Sivers) 2. $SIVE is a chokepoint over CPO. $NVDA use $COHR, $LITE (which likely sources external cw capacity from Japanese competitors) $AVGO is likely vertically integrated as well. However: the entire ecosystem around it from ASIC programs (Marvell, AlChip, etc) and merchant programs (Ayar, Lightmatter, Lightelligence) Are all likely designed around $SIVE. Ayar for example, likely tried to multi-source with $MTSI / $LITE back in 2022 but their lasers probably couldn’t match the level of Sivers specification with arrays (removed Lumentum / Macom from their supply chain site recently) If there’s no alternative at least for the initial generations (obviously they’re working to multi-source). That makes $SIVE a structural chokepoint to go through for lasers. Even if you look at the 1.6T LRO $JBL designed, they achieved a “drastic moat” with performance built around $SIVE likely sole source. $SIVE is also the foundry level reference laser design for $GFS, which your hyperscalers use like $AMD (likely using Sivers + maybe Ayar for gen1): If every major player, who hasn’t achieved vertical integration (Nvidia/Broadcom) is using Sivers for CPO… That makes them a chokepoint. Just look at the entire CPO $NVDA NVLink ecosystem partners: every single one are all likely using Sivers. And they all use $GFS as well (where Sivers is default reference). So $SIVE is both a chokepoint and bottleneck when CPO really scales up H2 2027, over one of the biggest architectural shifts of all time (near $0 -> $81B or $91B TAM in the next 1 1/2 years from GS research note) This is why I say $SIVE looks like it could be the next $75B $LITE over the next couple years. All of this should play out next year. And it’s still trading less than a company with $50M in purchase agreements that buys Sivers lasers to repackage them.中文 · 翻译$SIVE 看起来既是明年 CPO 的关卡，又是它的瓶颈。 总能看到非技术人员发布的信息，完全忽略了各种细节。 下面说说原因： 1. CW 激光器受到 $LITE 财报所显示的瓶颈制约。 激光晶圆厂的大量产能都被分配给了 EML，很可能来自 $NVDA 之前的合同。 → 住友电工/古河电气 = 瓶颈 → Win Semi = 瓶颈 $SIVE 做的是 Fab-lite 模式，那它算不算瓶颈？ 是的，$SIVE 就卡在这个激光瓶颈里，因为他们很早就掌控了从 Win Semi 和其他晶圆厂流出的 CW 激光器产能分配权（CEO 说过他们也在与其他厂商合作，增加更多产能）。 完美的例子是 Kioxia/Sandisk。$SNDK 控制着 NAND 的产出，所以他们就是瓶颈，因为他们控制着最终定价。 Ayar、Jabil、其他可插拔模块厂商，加上 Nvidia NVLink CPO 生态，需求超过了供给……最终激光器供应掌握在 $SIVE 手里，这就让 Sivers 成了瓶颈。 $SIVE 很可能也是 Jabil、Gen-1 Ayar、$MRVL Celestial，以及其他超大规模 ASIC/商用 CPO 路线的主供或唯一来源。所以绕不开它（单通道 CW 激光器没法热替换掉 Sivers）。 2. $SIVE 是 CPO 的关卡。 $NVDA 用的是 $COHR、$LITE（后者很可能从日本竞争对手那里外购 CW 产能）。 $AVGO 很可能也是垂直整合的。 然而：它周围整个生态，从 ASIC 项目（Marvell、AlChip 等）到商用项目（Ayar、Lightmatter、Lightelligence），很可能都是围绕 $SIVE 设计的。 比如 Ayar，2022 年可能尝试过从 $MTSI / $LITE 做多源采购，但它们的激光器在阵列规格上可能达不到 Sivers 的水平（最近他们从供应链网站上去掉了 Lumentum / Macom）。 如果至少在初期几代产品中没有替代方案（显然他们正在努力做多源采购），那就让 $SIVE 成了激光器领域一个结构性的、必须通过的关卡。 即使看看 $JBL 设计的 1.6T LRO，他们也通过围绕 $SIVE（可能是唯一来源）的性能，建立了一道“巨大的护城河”。 $SIVE 也是 $GFS 的代工厂级参考激光器设计，而你的超大规模客户（比如 $AMD，Gen1 很可能用的是 Sivers + 也许还有 Ayar）都在用 $GFS： 如果每一个尚未实现垂直整合的主要玩家（Nvidia/Broadcom）都在 CPO 中使用 Sivers…… 那他们就构成了一个关卡。 看看整个 $NVDA NVLink CPO 生态的合作伙伴：每一个都很可能在使用 Sivers。而且它们全都用 $GFS（Sivers 在这里是默认参考设计）。 所以当 CPO 在 2027 年下半年真正起量时，$SIVE 既是关卡又是瓶颈，而这次 CPO 是有史以来最大的架构变革之一（根据高盛研究报告，TAM 从接近 $0 到未来 1 年半内变成 $81B 或 $91B）。 这就是为什么我说 $SIVE 看起来像未来的 $75B 体量的 $LITE，会在未来几年内实现。 这一切都将在明年上演。 而它现在的市值，还不到一家拿着 $50M 采购协议、把 Sivers 的激光器买回来重新包装的公司。
- English · 原文Just some random notes about $AVGO earnings transcript - Revenue target reiterated ($100B+ 2027, pretty sure markets wanted that to be raised this earning, hence the drop) Remember $NVDA Jensen comments about $MRVL $1T company around networking/connectivity/interconnects? - “So as the TPUs continue to accelerate, there’ll be pressure overall on margins. But the connectivity side, the AI networking side of the business has very rich margins” “Demand for … networking is simply insatiable” Also very positive read through as well for the $LITE and the other players. But for TPU margins it goes down at scale, which is understandable. - “they are placing orders in fairly huge demand, which basically gives us a lot more visibility.. runs all the way to 2028 right now” positive read through on overall AI demand since it’s 2026 now… and orders are out in 2028 - The initial order for 1 gigawatt, which includes XPUs and our networking has been received and will start Delivery in the second half of 2027. for our other two customers, we expect shipments to begin late 2026 and accelerate into 2027. $META custom AI program h2 2027 timelines - “Our revenue, our content per gigawatt will increase. you start putting a lot, you start putting embedding CPU cores into the same XPUs and making those chips basically multi die with lots of hvm.” Just for the GW modelers. - “For OpenAI we have delivered silicon and we are on track for production late 2026” OpenAI custom program timeline - “If you ask about 27 or 28 that will continue to grow. We expect in fact 28 to be a substantial growth from what we are forecasting in 27.” More about the demand ramp, go brrr - “Google, that we expect a diversity of sources from them” Mediatek (2454) primary beneficary, maybe $MRVL. Already expected though Google doesn’t sole source so they don’t get bottlenecked. There’s quite a lot of AI demand visibility way until 2028, which is bullish on the AI sector as a whole. Regardless, Broadcom ends the week +0% lol. TLDR: Strongly bullish AI demand, especially networking. Stocks don’t move in a straight line up, but demand curves 2026-> 2027 -> 2028.中文 · 翻译随手记几条 $AVGO 财报电话会议的零散笔记 - 营收目标重申（2027 年 1000 亿美元以上，市场明显是希望这次财报能上调的，所以股价跌了） 还记得 $NVDA 黄仁勋说过，$MRVL 会是一家围绕网络/连接/互联的 1 万亿美元公司吗？ - “随着 TPU 继续加速，整体利润率会有压力。 但连接这一块，AI 网络业务，利润率非常丰厚。” “对……网络的需求简直是无法满足。” 对 $LITE 和其他玩家也是非常正面的连锁反应。不过 TPU 的利润率随着规模扩大而下降，这可以理解。 - “他们下的订单量相当庞大，这基本上给了我们更多的能见度……现在排单一直排到 2028 年。” 考虑到现在是 2026 年，而订单已经排到 2028 年，这对整个 AI 需求是个正面信号。 - 首个 1 吉瓦的订单——包含 XPU 和我们的网络——已经收到，将在 2027 年下半年开始交付。另外两家客户，我们预计出货从 2026 年底开始，并在 2027 年加速。 $META 定制 AI 项目的时间线是 2027 年下半年。 - “我们的收入，每吉瓦的内容会增加。当你开始大量把 CPU 内核嵌入到同样的 XPU 里，让这些芯片基本上变成带大量 HVM 的多裸片结构。” 这是给那些喜欢算吉瓦模型的人看的。 - “对于 OpenAI，我们已经交付了芯片，并将在 2026 年底按期量产。” OpenAI 定制项目时间线。 - “如果你问 27 年或 28 年，那会持续增长。我们实际上预计 28 年相比 27 年的预测会有大幅增长。” 更多关于需求加速的信息，冲冲冲。 - “对于 Google，我们预计他们会有多元化的来源。” 联发科 (2454) 是主要受益方，可能还有 $MRVL。不过这个预期已经在股价里了——Google 不会只依赖单一来源，以免被卡脖子。 AI 需求的能见度一直延伸到 2028 年，这对整个 AI 板块是看多的。不管怎样，博通这周收盘涨跌持平，哈哈。 太长不看版：强烈看多 AI 需求，尤其是网络部分。股票不会直线向上，但需求曲线从 2026 年→2027 年→2028 年一直往上走。
- English · 原文@OGCapital25 @Chi_w_wong It's expected Celestial and Lightmatter try and multi source. But maybe for gen-1 my guess is a lot sole source / primary source with $SIVE for the $NVDA CPO NVlink ecosystem. Nvidia has their own program with $LITE and $COHR.中文 · 翻译@OGCapital25 @Chi_w_wong 预期 Celestial 和 Lightmatter 会尝试多源供应。 但可能第一代产品，我猜大多是独家或主供，用 $SIVE 来服务 $NVDA 的 CPO NVlink 生态系统。 英伟达自己也跟 $LITE 和 $COHR 有合作项目。
- English · 原文GUESS WHAT ANON? After today’s new news with Ayar joining Nvidia NVLink fusion. $SIVE is now the laser source for likely: The entire Nvidia’s NVLink CPO listed supply chain ecosystem partners. From Marvell Celestial, Lightmatter, and now Ayar today (the three listed in NVLink CPO). This is why I call $SIVE a structural photonics laser chokepoint over CPO and now Nvidia ecosystem supply chains. -> Celestial was likely a direct customer to Sivers, not through Poet. (2023 investor presentation mapping), then bought by Marvell. -> Lightmatter was also listed there as a customer in 2023 investor presentation deck mapping. And… Guess what else? Then they all happen to use GlobalFoundries. Which Sivers is now the GFS silicon photonics foundry-level reference laser (also new news yesterday). Supply chain mapping all starting to make sense now anon? Sivers is also likely now the primary laser source for Ayar after they removed Macom/Lumentum their laser supply chain section (now just gfs/sivers), as a cherry on top. Algorithms completely miss this type of image based mapping. After this announcement, I personally think current valuations are very undervalued: Given Sivers now holds one of the most important structural laser chokepoint over Nvidia CPO NVLink ecosystem supply chains.中文 · 翻译猜怎么着，匿名君？ 今天出了新消息，Ayar 加入了 Nvidia 的 NVLink 融合。 $SIVE 现在很可能是以下领域的激光源： 整个 Nvidia NVLink CPO 列表里的供应链生态系统合作伙伴。 从 Marvell Celestial、Lightmatter，到今天公布的 Ayar（NVLink CPO 里列出的这三家）。 这就是为什么我把 $SIVE 称为 CPO 乃至现在 Nvidia 生态系统供应链上一个结构性的光子学激光瓶颈。 → Celestial 很可能曾是 Sivers 的直接客户，而不是通过 Poet（2023 年投资者演示文档里的映射），后来被 Marvell 收购了。 → Lightmatter 在 2023 年的投资者演示文档映射里也被列为客户。 而且……猜猜还有啥？ 然后它们碰巧都用了 GlobalFoundries。 而 Sivers 现在是 GFS 硅光子学晶圆厂级别的参考激光源（也是昨天的新消息）。 供应链映射开始说得通了，匿名君？ Sivers 现在很可能也是 Ayar 的主要激光源了，因为 Ayar 把 Macom/Lumentum 从它们的激光供应链部分移除了（现在只剩 gfs/sivers），这简直是锦上添花。 算法完全捕捉不到这种基于图像的映射。 在这则公告之后，我个人认为当前的估值被严重低估了： 鉴于 Sivers 现在手握 Nvidia CPO NVLink 生态系统供应链里最重要的结构性激光瓶颈之一。
- English · 原文$LITE rode the first optical wave from $3B to $75B in 2 years time with EML and pluggables. My thesis is $SIVE can do the same from $3B, with CPO/Pluggables and CW. Sivers + GFS SiPH reference laser news, alongside the +54% increase today. Is just one step of the way. https://t.co/Hfth69ZnYm中文 · 翻译$LITE 靠着 EML 和可插拔模块，在两年内从 $3B 涨到 $75B 完成了第一波光通信行情。 我的观点是 $SIVE 也能从 $3B 起步做到同样的事，凭借 CPO/可插拔模块和连续波激光器。 Sivers 加上 GFS 的 SiPH 参考激光器消息，再加上今天 54% 的涨幅。 这才只是刚刚开始。 https://t.co/Hfth69ZnYm
- English · 原文I never thought I’d see the day where $GOOGL needs to raise $80b for AI capex… Then Warren Buffet’s $BRK.A is funding the hyperscaler AI buildout. - $40B ATM, $30B offerings, Berkshire $10B Upstream ecosystem from $LITE to $AVGO to Mediatek to $TSM to $MU should go brrr. Not sure if the Google holders are though, given this massive capex scale isn’t as funded by FCF.中文 · 翻译从没想过有一天会看到 $GOOGL 需要募集 800 亿美元搞 AI 资本开支…… 接着沃伦·巴菲特的 $BRK.A 又给超大规模 AI 基建砸钱。 - 400 亿 ATM（在架发行），300 亿增发，伯克希尔 100 亿 从 $LITE 到 $AVGO 到联发科到 $TSM 到 $MU 的上游生态应该要起飞了。 不过谷歌的股东们恐怕没那么开心，因为这么大手笔的资本开支不是靠自由现金流撑起来的。
- English · 原文-> IP acquisition -> Just waiting for CPO to take off $SIVE is a laser chokepoint for photonics and are publicly validated by: - $GFS (1 of 2 public laser suppliers with $LITE for CPO per presentation) - $JBL (“Relatively dramatic moat” for pluggables built with Sivers) - CHIPS ACT for the overall company For highest visibility: -> Ayar is the largest CPO player that primary sources $SIVE and are expected to ramp in 2027. -> $POET is another near term CPO volume player that’s heavily visible with Sivers. For OSINT mapping: $MRVL Celestial (direct, not through Poet), Lightmatter, Lightelligence, were all high confidence customers of Sivers. $SIVE is also developing/qualifying with multiple more optical transceiver players following Jabil. It feels like they’re going to end up everywhere. I’m not sure people realize how special that many qualifications is coming from a <$2B MC laser company is… right before 2027 volume ramp. Especially while all the other laser companies trade at $15B-$70B valuations. Just need pluggables to bridge revenue gap into H2 2027 (CPO Scale up) Then making every laser they sell more valuable following the $LITE playbook, to capture more TAM of both markets. - In the overarching optical $141B TAM (10x) in the next 1 1/2 years. (Goldman Sachs) - and CPO TAM going from 0 to $81B in the next 1 1/2 years. So, easily multiply revenue opportunity overnight doing IP acquisition downstream. It’s more of just a waiting game, I think $SIVE is very undervalued relative to forward revenue potential. If it were a private Silicon Valley startup it would probably be worth $4-6B today. Just needs to get listed on NASDAQ for premiums to bridge that gap.中文 · 翻译-> 拿下IP -> 就等CPO起飞 $SIVE 是光子学领域的激光要塞，并且已获得如下公开验证： - $GFS（据演示材料，是两家公开激光供应商之一，与 $LITE 一起供应 CPO） - $JBL（用Sivers构建的可插拔模块拥有“相对显著的护城河”） - 整个公司获得的CHIPS法案资金 最高可见度方面： -> Ayar 是最大的CPO玩家，主要货源来自 $SIVE，预计2027年放量。 -> $POET 是另一个近期的CPO量产玩家，与Sivers有非常高的可见度。 开源情报梳理： $MRVL Celestial（直接，非通过Poet）、Lightmatter、Lightelligence，都是Sivers的高置信度客户。 $SIVE 还在与更多光收发器厂商进行开发和认证，紧随Jabil之后。 感觉它们会出现在每个角落。 我不确定大家是否意识到，一家市值不到20亿美元的激光公司，在2027年放量前夕获得这么多认证，有多不寻常…… 尤其当其他激光公司都在150亿到700亿美元的估值区间交易。 只需要可插拔模块来填补营收缺口，撑到2027年下半年（CPO规模化）。 然后照着 $LITE 的剧本，让每一颗卖出的激光器都更值钱，从而在两个市场中捕获更多TAM。 - 在整体光学领域，未来一年半内TAM为1410亿美元（高盛数据，10倍空间）。 - 而CPO的TAM将在未来一年半内从0增长到810亿美元。 所以，通过向下游收购IP，一夜之间就能轻松把营收机会翻倍。 更多只是等待的游戏，我认为 $SIVE 相对于未来的营收潜力，现在非常被低估。 如果它是一家硅谷的私营初创公司，今天可能值40到60亿美元。 只需要在纳斯达克上市，用溢价来弥合这个差距。
- English · 原文They’re stupid? $JBL announced demand > supply for their 1.6T LRO and this signals mass production on $SIVE lasers. Ayar raised $500m for volume ramp and dropped $LITE and $MTSI for $SIVE as primary. $AMD went with $GFS and have a high chance cw of using sivers for their CPO program. Sivers also signaled M&A which expands TAM a ton downstream中文 · 翻译他们傻吗？ $JBL 宣布需求大于供应，这预示着 $SIVE 的激光器将进入大规模量产。 Ayar 筹集了 5 亿美元用于量产放量，并放弃了 $LITE 和 $MTSI，转投 $SIVE 作为主要供应商。 $AMD 选择了 $GFS，并且有很大概率在它们的 CPO 计划中使用 Sivers 的产品。 Sivers 还暗示了并购的可能，这会大幅扩展下游的可触达市场。
- English · 原文$SIVE is the most compelling CPO exposure stock to me. Despite the volatility. You probably won’t find something like this again until the next architectural shift in photonics years later. Out of the core laser suppliers, they’re all tens of billions? $AAOI = $15B Furukawa = $26B $MTSI = $29B Sumitomo = $59B $COHR = $73B $LITE = $74B Then there’s $SIVE as one of the core CPO laser chokepoints at $2.3B MC. Earnings are usually confirmation of all the little volume ramp hints like Jabil fireside transcripts for 1.6T LRO. And most returns are typically made before, not after official confirmation is just a rule of thumb.中文 · 翻译$SIVE 在我看来是最有吸引力的 CPO 概念股。 虽然它波动很大。 但你可能要到几年后光子学领域下一次架构变革时，才能再找到这样的标的。 核心激光器供应商里，它们市值不都是几百亿吗？ $AAOI = 150 亿美元 古河电工 = 260 亿美元 $MTSI = 290 亿美元 住友电工 = 590 亿美元 $COHR = 730 亿美元 $LITE = 740 亿美元 然后 $SIVE 作为核心 CPO 激光器瓶颈之一，市值只有 23 亿美元。 财报通常只是确认那些小信号——比如 Jabil 电话会纪要里关于 1.6T LRO 的量产线索。 而大部分收益往往是在正式确认之前赚到的，而不是之后，这只是一条经验法则。
- English · 原文$SIVE is highest possible upside, since I see them being the next $LITE (which started at ~$2.6B as well in 2024, but now is $80B). As laser chokepoints are known to downstream TAM expand, then vertically integrate assembly/fabs after. Foci/Shunsin I kinda expect to 3-4x. They're more structural re-rating from FAU/component revenue growth... or just more demand on packaging/test. But hard to see them going up 20x.中文 · 翻译$SIVE 的上行空间最大，因为我看好它会成为下一个 $LITE（后者 2024 年起步时市值大约 26 亿美元，现在已经 800 亿美元了）。 激光瓶颈环节众所周知，下游 TAM 会扩张，然后它们再往后垂直整合封装/晶圆厂。 Foci/Shunsin 我大概预期能涨 3 到 4 倍。 它们更多是来自 FAU/组件营收增长带来的结构性重估……或者只是封装/测试需求增加。但要看到它们涨 20 倍，挺难的。
- English · 原文Did you listen anon? $SIVE is extremely early. And we’re about to see a ton of institutional inflow (Blackrock, Vanguard, MSCI, NASDAQ) next week for the first time. Then, couple that with NASDAQ listing soon, with even more US institutions entering. This is what it’s like to be in a name like $AXTI or $LITE at the very beginning. And this is still at a point before major institutional capital hit the float or CPO supercycle has ramped.中文 · 翻译你听到了吗，匿名用户？ $SIVE 现在极早期。 接下来一周，我们将首次看到大量机构资金涌入（Blackrock、Vanguard、MSCI、NASDAQ）。 然后，再加上很快就要在纳斯达克上市，会有更多美国机构进场。 这就是早期买入 $AXTI 或 $LITE 这类股票时的感觉。 而且这会儿，大机构资金还没大量涌入流通盘，CPO 超级周期也还没真正启动。
- English · 原文I’m not selling a single share of $SIVE. I personally think it’s a once-a-generation long given how many hyperscaler suppliers they’re already in. Coupled with GS extreme TAM expansion projections for both pluggables and CPO in the next 2 years. If you didn’t read the $JBL fireside transcript by now validating demand/timeline. Or the fact Ayar removed Lumentum and Macom from their website as laser suppliers validating moat. Or literal CHIPS ACT funding validating technological importance. Or that management is literally doing everything right in my view, with NASDAQ listing into M&A focus, validating forward growth vision. Upside is just way too compelling at current valuations. Institutions have barely entered yet as well… and we’re about to see tens of millions of passive, long term new inflow next month from Nasdaq, Blackrock, MSCI indexes.中文 · 翻译一股 $SIVE 我都不会卖。 我个人觉得，这是十年一遇的多头机会，毕竟他们已经打进了那么多家超大规模云服务商的供应链。 再加上高盛对未来两年可插拔光模块和 CPO 的 TAM 扩张预测，简直夸张。 如果你还没读过 $JBL 那场线上交流的文字记录，里面确认了需求和时间线。 或者没注意到 Ayar 已经从官网上去掉了 Lumentum 和 Macom 这两家激光器供应商，这验证了他们的护城河。 或者没看到光是《芯片法案》的拨款就已经确认了它的技术重要性。 或者没意识到管理层在我看来每一步都走对了——从纳斯达克上市到转向并购聚焦，都验证了未来增长的远景。 按现在的估值来看，向上的空间实在太诱人了。 而且机构资金才刚刚开始进场……接下来下个月，纳斯达克、贝莱德、MSCI 这些指数就会带来数千万美元的被动长期新资金流入。
- English · 原文@ShortsHoward So this is exactly what I mean by using ChatGPT will make you miss the nuances: They're literally different architectures. People using LLMs to compare $LITE single high power laser to one of the channel's outputs in a multi-channel array don't what they're talking about.中文 · 翻译@ShortsHoward 所以这就是我说的，用 ChatGPT 会让你忽略掉那些细微差别： 它们根本就是不同的架构。 那些用大语言模型对比 $LITE 单路高功率激光器和多通道阵列中某个通道输出的人，根本不知道自己在说什么。
- English · 原文People in Sweden always like: “How does $SIVE have so little employees and can do all of this” vs. $LITE? Turns out… You can build the most valuable IP in the world if ~1/4th your entire workforce are PHDs. https://t.co/oVlJJ9OEaZ中文 · 翻译瑞典人总爱说： “$SIVE 员工这么少，怎么搞定这一切的？” vs. $LITE？ 结果发现……如果整个团队里大约四分之一都是博士，你就能造出全世界最有价值的 IP。https://t.co/oVlJJ9OEaZ
- English · 原文I said this before but I have high conviction in $SIVE. I'm confident their UC Berkeley + $LITE executive team knows what IP to acquire. Since they've worked with Ayar and others from the start. Also helps that 22% of their company are PHDs so entire team is cracked. CHIPS ACT, all these likely partnerships from $NOK to $AAPL also gives a ton of credibility to the IP moat they've built. They just lacked the funding before the recent market interest in Sivers. But I'm very interested to see what they can do from here.中文 · 翻译我之前说过，但我对 $SIVE 有很高的信心。 我有信心，他们那支来自 UC Berkeley 和 $LITE 的 executive 团队知道该收购哪些 IP。毕竟他们从一开始就和 Ayar 他们合作过。 再加上他们公司有 22% 的员工都是博士，所以整个团队非常厉害。 CHIPS 法案，再加上所有这些潜在的合作伙伴，从 $NOK 到 $AAPL，也给他们构建的 IP 护城河带来了极大的可信度。 在最近市场对 Sivers 产生兴趣之前，他们只是缺乏资金。但我非常期待看到他们接下来能有什么作为。
- English · 原文For $SIVE to become the next $80B+ $LITE. Sivers is the current laser kingmaker of the optical transition to CPO and 1.6T. They basically supply lasers to the leading players in the CPO space. From likely $MRVL Celestial, Lightmatter, Lightelligence, $POET, and others for CPO. before they got big. And now with large players like $JBL for 1.6T LRO + more test/qualifications underway for pluggables. They've finally solved the Catch22 problem, and have the attention of the market to pull off foundational CPO related IP acquisitions downstream on NASDAQ listing (or now with equity). And expand revenue as much as possible from the laser source into: -> Optical Engine/ELS value. -> Optical Transceiver IP Just like $LITE did to drive their valuations from $2B -> $80B in 2 years. But instead of EML + pluggables, Sivers is doing this for the CPO supercycle, the fastest TAM expansion in history for photonics. I'm following the story for them to pull this off this David vs. Goliath shift catching up to $LITE. More than I care about little MC % returns that's happening currently.中文 · 翻译要让 $SIVE 成为下一个 800 亿+ 美元的 $LITE。 Sivers 是目前从传统光学转向 CPO 和 1.6T 的激光器之王。 他们基本上把激光器供应给 CPO 领域的头部玩家。 很可能是 $MRVL Celestial、Lightmatter、Lightelligence、$POET 以及其他做 CPO 的公司——在它们做大之前。 现在和 $JBL 这样的大玩家一起做 1.6T LRO，还有更多的测试和认证正在进行，针对可插拔模块。 他们终于解决了那个鸡生蛋蛋生鸡的问题，市场也开始关注他们，准备在纳斯达克上市后（或者现在用股权）收购底层的 CPO 相关 IP。 并且尽可能扩大收入来源，从激光器延伸至： → 光学引擎/ELS 的价值。 → 光收发器 IP。 就像 $LITE 当年那样——在两年内把估值从 20 亿推到 800 亿美元。 但不同的是，$LITE 靠的是 EML 和可插拔模块，而 Sivers 瞄准的是 CPO 超级周期，也就是光子学史上 TAM 扩张最快的领域。 我在关注这个故事，看他们如何实现这场大卫 vs 歌利亚式的逆袭，追上 $LITE。 这比我在意现在这点小市值的百分比变动重要多了。
在其他光模块产业链标的上也有持续观点
LITE 之外，以下标的同样收录于其观点库：