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微软等超大规模提供商对计算能力的需求远超现有产能,推动资本支出增加。
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- English · 原文@NicolaRussoIT Not as familiar with adoption read through with $ANET XPO MSA (ik $MSFT has been the most openly supportive).. so can't really give a good answer to implications on other players like $POET. https://t.co/Xi6zrmo5ha中文 · 翻译@NicolaRussoIT 我对 $ANET、$XPO、MSA 这种采用情况的了解没那么多(我知道 $MSFT 是最公开支持的),所以对于它对 $POET 这样的其他玩家会有什么影响,我真不好给个准确的答案。https://t.co/Xi6zrmo5ha
- English · 原文As a earnings recap: $AMZN, $META, $GOOGL, and $MSFT guided a 2026 combined capex forecast to ~$720-$745 Billion. Up from $695-$725B Billion previously. Amazon: $220B Google: $195B-$205B Meta: $130B-$145B Microsoft: $175B We've already seen significant deleveraging and retail/institutional margin liquidations (maybe it continues for more time, who knows). But medium-long term, I'm not quite sure how anyone can be bearish the upstream semis or neoclouds. Given each hyperscaler has flagged either compute shortages, rising cloud demand + pricing power, or increased spending for chips/networking. My "bottleneck" thesis with many of these upstream semi supply chains is that when trillions in capital flows into things from InP substrates or memory (which were both treated as cheap commodities) or even energy. Lot of these current AI names that were treated as useless before in telecom cycles or even toilet sellers. Gets rerated when their inflection period hits and capex flows into their balance sheets. As seen with $NVDA GPUs past few years, memory this year, CPUs/MLCCs next few years, CPO in 2027, Glass Substrates in 2027, 800V in 2027, and so on.中文 · 翻译财报总结一下:$AMZN、$META、$GOOGL 和 $MSFT 预计,到2026年,它们的合计资本开支将达到约7200亿至7450亿美元。 比之前预期的6950亿到7250亿美元有所提高。 亚马逊:2200亿美元 谷歌:1
- English · 原文Just a TLDR of this week: Media: Hyperscalers overbuilt and are selling excess compute. -> $GOOGL, $MSFT, $META, and $AMZN: Demand for compute far exceeds capacity. Capex go brrr. Institutions: Emergency rate hike or 3x rate hikes, it's all over. -> Kevin Warsh: No rate Hike. Retail/Media: AI is crashing because it's a bubble. -> Citadel looking to buy AI leveraged hedge funds positions: 👀 Jim Cramer: Sell all your leveraged DC stocks. -> Koreans: SK Hynix +30%, Samsung +26.81%中文 · 翻译本周总结一下: 媒体说法:超大规模云服务商建多了,正在甩卖多余算力。 → $GOOGL, $MSFT, $META, 和 $AMZN:对算力的需求远超我们现有产能。资本开支一路猛增。 机构说法:紧急加息或加息三次,一切都完了。 → Kevin Warsh:不会加息。 散户/媒体:AI要崩盘了,因为这就是个泡沫。 → Citadel 正在考虑买入那些加了AI杠杆的对冲基金仓位:👀 Jim Cramer:卖掉所有你加了杠杆的DC股票。 → 韩国人:SK Hynix +30%,Samsung +26.81%
- English · 原文@Jespabe Not really, it's accounting framing. Microsoft investment expectations are the same but it's $175B for 2026 instead of $190B for 2026 because of how they reclassified DC leases. So roughly the same projections.中文 · 翻译@Jespabe 也不是真这样,这只是会计处理方式不同而已。 微软的投资预期没变,只是2026年的投资额从1900亿美元变成了1750亿美元,因为他们重新分类了数据中心(DC)的租赁。 所以说,预估基本还是差不多的。
- English · 原文Just some takeaways from $META | $MSFT earnings calls: Microsoft: - Expected to be FCF positive in 2027, despite the increase in capex (extremely positive for AI buildout that it's funded by operating income) - "Free cash flow was $19.6 billion, reflecting higher capital expenditures" - Quartely capex was $41B, roughly 2/3rds were "short lived assets, primarily CPUs and GPUs" - Expects capex spend will be over $50 billion for next quarter - Capex Guidance at ~$175 billion and 2027 capex roughly the same. Spending plans unchanged and in line. - "Extending the estimated useful life of our data centers from 15 to 25 years" - "We will be among the first cloud providers to deploy next generation rack-scale AI infrastructure based on $AMD Helios and $NVDA Vera Rubin" - "Customer demand continues to exceed available capacity" Meta: - Capex $130-$145 billion (narrowed range), from $125B-$145B. - Meta is receiving offers at a "significant premium" to what they paid for it (compute scarcity, positive for neoclouds like $IREN / $NBIS ) - Expects significant portion of compute (like the 1 GW DC in El Paso) to develop internal models. - Meta has multiple ROI-positive uses for additional compute across its core business (internally, not Meta Compute) - "Finally, we believe that overall industry capacity is going to remain tight for the foreseeable future" - "The industry has under-built historically for the wave of AI adoption, making existing capacity, including our own, extremely valuable" - Susan Li TLDR: - $MSFT and $GOOGL largely sustaining AI capex buildout while remaining FCF positive or through operating incomes. - $META flags available compute materially below demand at least through 2027. And $MSFT also flags compute demand far exceeds supply. - All three hyperscaler capex largely in line with Google hiking capex figures. AI selloff seems extremely overblown now, hyperscalers continuing capex in line (with Microsoft being FCF positive) or even hiked with $GOOGL. Compute scarcity is visible throughout every single hyperscaler ER.中文 · 翻译简单总结一下 $META 和 $MSFT 财报电话会的几点收获: 微软: - 预计到2027年自由现金流(FCF)转正,尽管资本支出(capex)在增加(这对于AI基础设施建设是天大的利好,因为它的资金来源是运营收入) - “自由现金流为19
- English · 原文$AAPL looks to acquire AI chip companies for running AI (Source: The Information) Right now, $MSFT, $META, Amazon, Google are carrying AI capex spend. But what if Apple joined the others after M&A? A possible scenario is that they revise capex largely upward for their own AI buildout. Since they probably witnessed Google cutting off Meta from compute constraints... or what happens when you partner with OpenAI for LLMs. Then learned how important it is to have your own infrastructure. This scenario would be quite bullish thematically from optical networking to foundries and something markets would not expect? We'll see what happens.中文 · 翻译$AAPL 打算收购 AI 芯片公司来运行人工智能 (来源:The Information) 目前,$MSFT、$META、亚马逊、谷歌正在承担大量的 AI 资本支出。 但如果苹果在并购之后也加入其中,会怎么样呢? 一种可能的情况是,他们会大幅上调资本支出,用于建设自己的 AI。 因为他们可能目睹了谷歌因为算力限制而切断了 Meta 的资源……或者也看到了与 OpenAI 合作开发大模型时会发生什么。 然后就明白了拥有自己基础设施的重要性。 这种情景对相关主题投资会是重大利好,从光网络到晶圆代工都会受益,而且这可能是市场没有预料到的?我们拭目以待。
- English · 原文$NBIS signs $1B+ compute agreement with Reflection AI, for GB300 access through 2029. Reflection also signed a multi-billion dollar agreement with $SPCX earlier. Interesting to say the least, seeing Nebius drop -5% off the news today. Also... counterparty to get this done kinda reminds me of OpenAI, where they might not have the funds to actually execute on these LTAs yet compared to $META or $MSFT. But generally positive long term developments, customer diversification was one of the core strengths of Nebius.中文 · 翻译$NBIS 和 Reflection AI 签署了一份10亿多美元的算力协议,获得到2029年的GB300算力。 Reflection 之前也和 $SPCX 签署了一份数十亿美元的协议。 至少可以说很有意思的是,今天 Nebius 竟然因为这消息跌了5%。 另外…这个交易对手方能达成这笔交易,有点让我想起 OpenAI,就是他们可能还没像 $META 或 $MSFT 那样,有足够的资金来真正执行这些长期协议。 但从长期来看,这总体上是积极的进展,毕竟客户多元化一直是 Nebius 的核心优势之一。
- English · 原文He wouldn't have build a $1T company without pulling off all those moves. - Gets funding from Elon -> Pisses off $TSLA going independent - Gets funding from $MSFT -> Pisses of Microsoft by diluting them with other hyperscaler funding - Gets funding from $NVDA -> Builds their competing chip and funds Cerebras competitors for inference - Works with $AAPL on Apple Intelligence? -> Create their competing devices. - Potential lack of funding? -> Sign a lot of LTAs so the entire industry lives or dies off OpenAI succeeding. Whatever he's doing is working lol.中文 · 翻译他要是没做成所有这些操作,根本不可能打造出一个万亿美元公司。 - 从马斯克那里获得资金 → 激怒 $TSLA,走独立路线 - 从 $MSFT 那里获得资金 → 通过引入其他超大规模厂商的资金稀释微软的股份,惹恼了微软 - 从 $NVDA 那里获得资金 → 打造他们自己的竞争芯片,并为 Cerebras 的推理竞争对手提供资金 - 和 $AAPL 合作开发 Apple Intelligence? → 然后制造他们自己的竞争设备。 - 潜在的资金短缺? → 签署大量长期协议,让整个行业都与 OpenAI 的成败休戚相关。 不管他怎么做,反正都成功了,哈哈。
- English · 原文Contrarian take, but Sam Altman / OpenAI is doing something right if he's pissing off every Mag7 like $AAPL. By building their own ecosystem instead of being sucked into another. It's been awhile since $GOOGL, Apple, Microsoft, and others had some genuine disruptors.中文 · 翻译唱个反调,不过 Sam Altman 和 OpenAI 如果把 $AAPL 这样的七巨头都给惹恼了,那他们肯定做对了什么。 通过建立自己的生态系统,而不是被吸进别人的。 自从 $GOOGL、Apple、Microsoft 和其他公司出现真正的颠覆者,已经有一阵子了。
- English · 原文@frank_be $MSFT was underwater DCs. These are floating DCs https://t.co/oOEyTEBJ5z中文 · 翻译@frank_be $MSFT 之前搞的是水下数据中心。 这些是漂浮式数据中心 https://t.co/oOEyTEBJ5z
- English · 原文Fun new information discovery from Poet OSINT community: Seems likely that $POET / $SIVE are going to power a Top-3 hyperscaler (either Amazon, Microsoft, Google). Given a Linkedin update from Ankur Singla (CEO of Lumilens). Who stated their customer is one of the top 3 hyperscalers with their post focusing on CPO/NPO. With that clue, seems more likely the Sivers CW DFB light source path over other EML suppliers given it's CPO Scale Out/NPO. If you don't remember, Sivers is the laser supplier to Poet. And Poet has purchase agreements with Lumilens. Always fun to find major potential breadcrumbs in the wild before they're officially confirmed. (Disclosure, long Sive)中文 · 翻译Poet OSINT 社群挖到的新有趣线索: 看起来 $POET / $SIVE 很可能要拿下全球前三的云巨头之一(亚马逊、微软、谷歌中的一家)。 线索来自 Lumilens 的 CEO Ankur Singla 在 LinkedIn 上的一则更新。 他说他们的客户就是前三的云巨头之一,而且那条帖子的重点是 CPO/NPO。 顺着这条线索,考虑到 PoET 用的是 CPO Scale Out/NPO,Sivers 的连续波 DFB 光源方案比其它 EML 供应商的可能性更大。 如果你忘了提一下:Sivers 是 Poet 的激光光源供应商。而 Poet 和 Lumilens 之间有采购协议。 在官方确认之前,能从公开信息里挖到这种潜在的大线索,总是很有意思。(披露:做多 Sivers)
- English · 原文Yes, choosing the right theme is extremely important. Even if $POET doesn't really do anything, it still gets brought up thematically due to $LITE, $COHR, and others. Even if $RDDT outperforms extremely hard, it still gets brought down from $META, $MSFT, $CRM, and other software basket names.中文 · 翻译没错,选对主题极其重要。 就算 $POET 本身没什么动作,它也会因为 $LITE、$COHR 和其他股票而被带到主题上来。 就算 $RDDT 表现极其强势,它还是会因为 $META、$MSFT、$CRM 以及其他软件篮子里的票而被拖下来。
- English · 原文Trendforce reports that $AMD is actively trying to secure CW laser supply with multiple major procurement orders... Is probably just the start of the bottleneck? There's not much independent capacity in Western supply chains left other than $SIVE or $AAOI and maybe Macom. Especially after Lumentum/Coherent got locked up with multi-year agreements with Nvidia. (disclosure, own Sive and aaoi) Lumentum is already CW laser constrained and is likely buying off Japanese companies like Sumitomo/Furukawa if I had to guess per ER, and those are probably running at max capacity. From the Trendforce report, this is: "to ensure that its future capacity will not be constrained by NVIDIA and other major Cloud Service Providers (CSPs)." I wouldn't be surprised if other hyperscalers like Amazon, Microsoft, and others saw Nvidia / AMD signing LTAs, and are trying to secure capacity next. A lot of it is game theory on not getting choked out by competitors, and looks like AMD is tipping the first domino after Nvidia. But my opinion is that this just goes and show how invaluable this CW laser chokepoint is and the companies are inside it.中文 · 翻译Trendforce 报道说 $AMD 正在积极争取 CW 激光供应,下了好几笔大采购订单…… 这可能只是瓶颈的开始吧? 西方供应链中,除了 $SIVE 和 $AAOI,可能还有 Macom 之外,已经没多少独立的产能了。 尤其是在 Lumentum/Coherent 和英伟达签了好几年协议,产能都被锁住之后。(披露:持有 Sive 和 aaoi) Lumentum 的 CW 激光供应已经很紧张了,根据财报我猜他们可能正在从住友/古河电工这类日本公司那里采购,而这些公司大概也已经满负荷运转了。 根据 Trendforce 的报告,这是: “为了确保其未来的产能不会受到英伟达和其他主要云服务提供商(CSP)的限制。” 如果亚马逊、微软等其他超大规模企业看到英伟达/AMD 签署了长期协议,然后也开始争取产能,我一点也不会感到惊讶。 很大程度上这是一种博弈论,为了不被竞争对手卡脖子,看起来英伟达之后,AMD 正在推倒第一块多米诺骨牌。 但我的看法是,这恰好说明了 CW 激光这个“瓶颈”有多么宝贵,以及处于这个瓶颈中的公司有多重要。
- English · 原文At this point I can't tell anymore if markets from $META to $MSFT are correcting because of macro. Or just liquidity pull from $SPCX + index inclusion. And institutions frontrunning Nasdaq 100 and other rebalancing of SpaceX... Anyone know? https://t.co/sTLjsGq95V中文 · 翻译到现在我已经分不清, 从 $META 到 $MSFT 的市场是在因为宏观面回调, 还是只是 $SPCX 的资金流出 + 指数纳入造成的流动性抽离, 再加上机构抢跑纳斯达克 100 和 SpaceX 等其他再平衡操作…… 有人知道吗? https://t.co/sTLjsGq95V
- English · 原文Yeah… I think all your upstream semi supply chain companies are going much higher. Goldman now expects a combined $5.3 trillion of capex spending for the four largest hyperscalers $GOOGL / $META / MSFT / $AMZN from 2025 to 2030. Revised up from $4.5T from Q1 earnings. “Aggregate capex est. $7.6 trillion between 2026 and 2031.” And it flows upward to these tiny chokepoints like $SIVE for CPO lasers/ $SOI for Silicon Photonics substrates. Leaderdrive/Harmonic for Humanoids components. And so on… Ai names don’t move in a straight line up, but is just the beginning of the next Industrial Revolution as we move from R&D/compute buildout into commercialization from Agents -> Physical AI -> discovery.中文 · 翻译是啊……我觉得你上游所有半导体供应链的公司都会涨很多。 高盛现在预计,从2025到2030年,四大超大规模云厂商 $GOOGL / $META / MSFT / $AMZN 的资本开支总和将达到 5.3 万亿美元。 相比一季度财报时预测的 4.5 万亿,已经上调了。 “2026 到 2031 年,总资本开支估计为 7.6 万亿美元。” 这些资金会向上传导到那些小而关键的瓶颈环节,比如 $SIVE(CPO 激光器)、$SOI(硅光子学衬底),还有 Leaderdrive / Harmonic(人形机器人组件)。 等等等等…… AI 板块不会一路上涨, 但当我们从研发/算力建设阶段走向商业化——从 Agent 到物理 AI,再到科学发现——这仅仅是下一场工业革命的开端。
- English · 原文@JonahK44 $NBIS is $META and $MSFT. $GOOGL has done a lot of Fluidstack deals with $CIFR to $WULF for more Colo. my guess is to plug in a lot more of their TPUS中文 · 翻译@JonahK44 $NBIS 就是 $META 和 $MSFT。 $GOOGL 跟 $CIFR 和 $WULF 做了不少 Fluidstack 交易,都是为了扩充 Colo。我猜他们是想接入更多自家的 TPU。
- English · 原文Ayar’s announcement today with Wiwynn is potentially very material for $SIVE regarding CPO -> rack scale deployments. As Wiwynn cloud clients include $AMZN, $META, $MSFT. And they’ve been in talks for $GOOGL TPU deployments. I think just for some reference architectures it’s around 512+ supernova light sourc a rack. So if $SIVE is the primary laser array supplier (which we expect, given Macom + Lumentum was removed from Ayar’s site). Even modest rack deployments would be very meaningful for revenue. This is just rack scale commercialization potential right now from $SIVE / Ayar / Wiwynn, which won’t show up in revenue financials yet.中文 · 翻译Ayar 今天和 Wiwynn 的声明,对 $SIVE 来说在 CPO -> 机架级部署这条线上,潜在意义非常大。 因为 Wiwynn 的云客户包括 $AMZN、$META、$MSFT。 而且他们一直在跟 $GOOGL 的 TPU 部署谈合作。 我觉得,单看一些参考架构,一个机架大概就要 512+ 个 Supernova 光源。 所以如果 $SIVE 是主要的激光阵列供应商(我们预期是这样,毕竟 Macom 和 Lumentum 已经从 Ayar 的官网上移除了)。 哪怕只是中等规模的机架部署,对营收来说也意义重大。 而这还只是 $SIVE / Ayar / Wiwynn 眼下在机架级商业化上的潜力,暂时还不会体现在财务营收上。
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