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- English · 原文@jukan05 Yep, reasonable point on the duration. I just found $AAPL AI windfall to be pretty amusing. https://t.co/ki0Wp3X6YD中文 · 翻译@jukan05 嗯，关于期限这一点说得有道理。我就是觉得 $AAPL 能从人工智能领域获得意外之财挺有意思的。https://t.co/ki0Wp3X6YD
- English · 原文$AAPL is now an important AI company apparently? -> "OpenAI Hoarding Tens Of Thousands Of Apple Mac mini and Mac Studio" for reinforcement learning -> Anthropic is renting Apple Mac mini units from $AMZN to complete similar AI tasks I've never seen a company win so hard by doing nothing. But whenever I see Apple + AI, I think of my beloved $RPI. Apparently Anthropic is working with Raspberry Pi now for their new model Hardware Standard, as of the 27th. There's nothing yet about Anthropic/OpenAI buying Raspberry Pi devices for similar tasks, but maybe some OSINT researcher can do some digging.中文 · 翻译$AAPL 现在也成了重要的AI公司了？🤔 → “OpenAI 大量囤积数万台 Apple Mac mini 和 Mac Studio” 用于强化学习 → Anthropic 正从 $AMZN 租借 Apple Mac mini 设备，完成类似的 AI 任务 我从没见过哪家公司躺赢得这么彻底。 但每当我看到 Apple + AI，我就会想起我心爱的 $RPI。据 27 号的消息，Anthropic 似乎正在与 Raspberry Pi 合作，开发他们新模型的硬件标准。 目前还没有 Anthropic/OpenAI 购买 Raspberry Pi 设备用于类似任务的消息，不过也许有 OSINT 研究员能挖到点什么。
- English · 原文True, right now markets just want FCF + large warchests or dividends/buybacks I guess, like $AAPL. I'd agree with Zuckerberg that although it compresses near term FCF, they'll be rewarded over time with long term growth. As a shareholder, probably better to prioritize long term growth over a low-growth FCF then buybacks company as seen with $PYPL's returns.中文 · 翻译对的，我想现在市场就想要那些有强劲自由现金流（FCF）以及大量现金储备或者能持续分红/回购的公司，比如 $AAPL。 我同意扎克伯格的观点，虽然这会压缩短期自由现金流，但从长远来看，公司最终会因为长期增长而获得回报。 作为股东，与其投资那些增长缓慢、依靠自由现金流然后回购股票的公司（看看 $PYPL 的回报就知道了），可能还是优先考虑长期增长的公司更好。
- English · 原文@SVTrivo No leaks yet on what companies $AAPL is buying. Regardless, my guess is that they're trying to become more self-reliant after what happened with $GOOGL + $META and OpenAI. Which would signal AI capex hikes, which markets definitely aren't expecting from someone like Apple.中文 · 翻译@SVTrivo 苹果 $AAPL 要收购哪些公司，目前还没啥风声。 不过，我猜他们可能是经历过 $GOOGL + $META 和 OpenAI 的事情后，想变得更自给自足。 这可能预示着苹果会增加 AI 资本开支，而市场肯定没想到苹果会这么做。
- English · 原文@shopaholicdivas Maybe something like Sambanova or other inference companies is my guess. $AAPL is sitting on an absolute warchest right now.中文 · 翻译@shopaholicdivas 我猜可能是 Sambanova 或者其他推理公司。 $AAPL 现在手握着一笔巨额资金。
- English · 原文$AAPL looks to acquire AI chip companies for running AI (Source: The Information) Right now, $MSFT, $META, Amazon, Google are carrying AI capex spend. But what if Apple joined the others after M&A? A possible scenario is that they revise capex largely upward for their own AI buildout. Since they probably witnessed Google cutting off Meta from compute constraints... or what happens when you partner with OpenAI for LLMs. Then learned how important it is to have your own infrastructure. This scenario would be quite bullish thematically from optical networking to foundries and something markets would not expect? We'll see what happens.中文 · 翻译$AAPL 打算收购 AI 芯片公司来运行人工智能 (来源：The Information) 目前，$MSFT、$META、亚马逊、谷歌正在承担大量的 AI 资本支出。 但如果苹果在并购之后也加入其中，会怎么样呢？ 一种可能的情况是，他们会大幅上调资本支出，用于建设自己的 AI。 因为他们可能目睹了谷歌因为算力限制而切断了 Meta 的资源……或者也看到了与 OpenAI 合作开发大模型时会发生什么。 然后就明白了拥有自己基础设施的重要性。 这种情景对相关主题投资会是重大利好，从光网络到晶圆代工都会受益，而且这可能是市场没有预料到的？我们拭目以待。
- English · 原文He wouldn't have build a $1T company without pulling off all those moves. - Gets funding from Elon -> Pisses off $TSLA going independent - Gets funding from $MSFT -> Pisses of Microsoft by diluting them with other hyperscaler funding - Gets funding from $NVDA -> Builds their competing chip and funds Cerebras competitors for inference - Works with $AAPL on Apple Intelligence? -> Create their competing devices. - Potential lack of funding? -> Sign a lot of LTAs so the entire industry lives or dies off OpenAI succeeding. Whatever he's doing is working lol.中文 · 翻译他要是没做成所有这些操作，根本不可能打造出一个万亿美元公司。 - 从马斯克那里获得资金 → 激怒 $TSLA，走独立路线 - 从 $MSFT 那里获得资金 → 通过引入其他超大规模厂商的资金稀释微软的股份，惹恼了微软 - 从 $NVDA 那里获得资金 → 打造他们自己的竞争芯片，并为 Cerebras 的推理竞争对手提供资金 - 和 $AAPL 合作开发 Apple Intelligence？ → 然后制造他们自己的竞争设备。 - 潜在的资金短缺？ → 签署大量长期协议，让整个行业都与 OpenAI 的成败休戚相关。 不管他怎么做，反正都成功了，哈哈。
- English · 原文Contrarian take, but Sam Altman / OpenAI is doing something right if he's pissing off every Mag7 like $AAPL. By building their own ecosystem instead of being sucked into another. It's been awhile since $GOOGL, Apple, Microsoft, and others had some genuine disruptors.中文 · 翻译唱个反调，不过 Sam Altman 和 OpenAI 如果把 $AAPL 这样的七巨头都给惹恼了，那他们肯定做对了什么。 通过建立自己的生态系统，而不是被吸进别人的。 自从 $GOOGL、Apple、Microsoft 和其他公司出现真正的颠覆者，已经有一阵子了。
- English · 原文For this type of mapping with $SIVE, it's a good idea look at their partners and their timelines. - $JBL confirmed via JPM fireside chat they have a relatively dramatic moat with their 1.6T LRO and are getting qualified done over next 1-4 months (2 months ago). So should be August 2026 to March 2027 timeframes for qual completion, then mass prod start with Sivers in pluggables. - $AEVA are targeting HVM prob q4 2026, $POET is starting off production H2 2026 but probably later in H1 should kick off more. O-Net, Ayar, $GFS and others are somewhere in 2027 I think and that's more along the lines of CPO timelines rather than $SIVE per say. Very confident in terms of execution, since $SIVE has a technical + qualification moat into many different hyperscaler supplier sources. And everyone is incentivized to produce as much as possible, with Sivers as the laser supplier. Not including likely names like $AAPL in 2028. How both the $SIVE CEO and $JBL stated it is: It's more about how much they can make rather than looking at competition (cause demand is so high + different chokepoints are bottlenecked). For me personally, it's just waiting for things to play out. The main area of interest is downstream IP acquisition for TAM expansion, so I think that opportunity pipeline undersells forward growth going forward.中文 · 翻译对于$SIVE这种布局，最好是看看他们的合作伙伴和时间线。 - $JBL 在摩根大通的炉边谈话中确认，他们凭借 1.6T LRO 拥有相对显著的护城河，并且在接下来的 1-4 个月内（这是两个月前说的）完成资质认证。所以，资质认证完成的时间点应该在 2026 年 8 月到 2027 年 3 月之间，然后 Sivers 的产品就可以在可插拔模块中大规模量产了。 - $AEVA 的目标是大概在 2026 年第四季度开始大规模制造 (HVM)，而 $POET 将在 2026 年下半年开始生产，但可能上半年晚些时候就会有更多进展。 我认为 O-Net、Ayar、$GFS 和其他公司大概会在 2027 年左右，那更多是 CPO 的时间线，而不是严格意义上的 $SIVE。 对执行力很有信心，因为 $SIVE 在许多不同的超大规模供应商渠道中都拥有技术和资质认证的
- English · 原文Be Samsung at $1.24T: > market: we don’t think you can keep hiking memory prices > proceeds to hikes dram by 20% > releases earnings > most profitable company in the world beating $NVDA and $AAPL > operating profits growing 1803% Y/Y market: sells off Samsung -7%中文 · 翻译想象一下，三星市值1.24万亿美元的时候： > 市场：我们觉得你不能再涨存储器价格了。 > 结果它转头就把DRAM价格涨了20%。 > 然后发布财报。 > 成了全球最赚钱的公司，业绩超过了$NVDA和$AAPL。 > 营业利润同比增长1803%。 市场：然后把三星股价砸了7%。
- English · 原文$SIVE + Aeva likely coded from the new PR today and SIVE + Apple. For Sivers lasers powering robotics / physical AI. -> Sivers lasers powering Boston Dynamics Atlas via. LG Innotek for robotics -> Nvidia Hyperion ecosystem w/ Sivers lasers for physical AI. Are possible paths with Aeva. Apple likely using Sivers also reiterated from the newer webpage: “Optical sensing modules for wearables” from biometric and health monitoring. They just can’t namedrop partners due to confidentiality, but consumer sensing is probably the biggest tell. Physical AI and mass consumer production with Apple would be very material to revenue.中文 · 翻译$SIVE + Aeva 大概率是从今天的新 PR 里推断出来的，以及 $SIVE + Apple。 关于 Sivers 激光器为机器人 / 具身 AI 提供动力。 → Sivers 激光器通过 LG Innotek 为波士顿动力 Atlas 提供动力，用于机器人领域 → Nvidia Hyperion 生态系统中搭载 Sivers 激光器，用于具身 AI。 这些都是与 Aeva 可能展开的路径。 Apple 也很有可能使用 Sivers，这在较新的网页上得到了重申： “用于可穿戴设备的光学传感模块”——来自生物识别与健康监测。 他们只是出于保密原因不能直接点名合作伙伴，但消费级传感大概是最明显的信号。 具身 AI 加上与 Apple 的大规模消费级生产，对营收来说会是非常实质性的推动。
- English · 原文@TradingTh3Trend This is likely just a PR to support $SIVE + $AAPL relationships to combat false short seller claims the relationship was terminated. They've likely been working with Apple for quite some time, not really entering the market.中文 · 翻译@TradingTh3Trend 这很可能只是用来支持 $SIVE 和 $AAPL 关系的一则公关稿，目的是反击空头散播的“合作关系已终止”的假消息。 他们和苹果应该已经合作了相当一段时间了，并不是刚进入这个市场。
- English · 原文Trump announced Intel + Apple partnership, sending $INTC up 8% today. Intel execs were reportedly surprised by the $AAPL announcement by Donald Trump. TBH, the President should lead Intel's marketing team at this point. Feel's like he's hard carrying the stock. https://t.co/eCSS46U6eb中文 · 翻译特朗普宣布英特尔+苹果合作，今天$INTC涨了8%。 据报道，英特尔高管对唐纳德·特朗普宣布$AAPL的消息感到意外。 说实话，总统真该去当英特尔的营销主管。 感觉他就像在硬扛这只股票。https://t.co/eCSS46U6eb
- English · 原文$SIVE is likely laser ramping with $AEVA soon and $AAPL with their next refresh of Apple Watches after their recent announcement. Haven’t seen anything credible to disprove that. There’s some people without technical depth conflating TASC sensors with future Apple Watches using lasers, and don’t understand NRE volumes can carry forward years too. AI DCs for photonics are $SIVE main focus though, anything else like Apple is a cherry on top.中文 · 翻译$SIVE 很可能很快就要和 $AEVA 一起激光爬坡，加上 $AAPL 最近宣布之后的下一次 Apple Watch 更新。 目前还没看到任何可靠信息能反驳这一点。 有些缺乏技术深度的人把 TASC 传感器和未来的激光版 Apple Watch 混为一谈，也不明白 NRE 量产能延续多年。 不过 AI 数据中心的光电子才是 $SIVE 的主要方向，像 Apple 这类业务只是锦上添花。
- English · 原文Just very helpful timelines reiterated around glass substrate (source: Trendforce): - SKC Absolics (011790) H2 2026 (first mover x $AMAT) - $AMD customers - Samsung electromechanics h2 2027 (009150) x Sumitomo Chem (4005) - Apple / $AVGO / hyperscalers Idk about $INTC 2030 reports, we’ll see. $TSM CoPoS was 2-3Y was correct though from recent TSM chairman comments. Innolux was interesting beneficiary. $SHMD should be too off TSM but financials were pretty toxic. Same players should appear multiple times, eg innolux + SKC. Also applies to $LPK and upstream equipment seller around these ramps.中文 · 翻译Trendforce重申了一些关于玻璃基板，很有用的时间线（来源：Trendforce）： - SKC Absolics (011790) 2026年下半年（先行者，与 $AMAT 合作）- $AMD 的客户 - Samsung electromechanics 2027年下半年 (009150)，与 Sumitomo Chem (4005) 合作 - Apple / $AVGO / 超大规模厂商 关于 $INTC 2030年的报告，我就不清楚了，到时候看吧。 不过，$TSM CoPoS 说2-3年那个，从台积电董事长最近的评论来看确实是对的。Innolux 是个有意思的受益方。$SHMD 也应该会受益于台积电，但它财务状况实在有点糟糕。 同样的参与者应该会多次出现，比如 Innolux + SKC。 这也适用于 $LPK 以及围绕这些产能爬坡的上游设备供应商。
- English · 原文When I do my supply chain mapping... $SIVE is just so critically important to so many frontier industries. I'm not sure people are fully aware yet. $SIVE -> $AAPL, $NOK, $RTX (us defense contractrs), $YSS (golden dome). Not including Ericcson + others. Then you have $SIVE -> $AEVA -> Boston Dynamics / $NVDA self-driving architectural standards. Then you have $SIVE -> Celestial / $POET / Lightmatter / Lightelligence / Ayar / $JBL, and many others for CPO/1.6T. Those go to GUC/ALCHIP/Marvell -> hyperscalers. Then there's a ton more... Like their US Gov CHIPS Act work that are secretive. Normally with stuff like $POET, it's like "hey" you have 1 customer with a $50m purchase order, we know where that's going. Not some Swedish company with a smaller valuation, going into everywhere from Space, Robotics, AI, consumer segments...中文 · 翻译在做供应链梳理的时候…$SIVE 在很多前沿产业里都处于绝对关键的位置。 我感觉大家还没完全意识到这一点。 $SIVE → $AAPL、$NOK、$RTX（美国国防承包商）、$YSS（金穹）。还不包括爱立信和其他。 然后还有 $SIVE → $AEVA → Boston Dynamics / $NVDA 自动驾驶架构标准。 接着是 $SIVE → Celestial / $POET / Lightmatter / Lightelligence / Ayar / $JBL，还有很多其他做 CPO/1.6T 的公司。 这些又通到 GUC/ALCHIP/Marvell → 超大规模云厂商。 还有更多…比如他们跟美国政府《芯片法案》相关的保密项目。 通常像 $POET 这种，你会说"嘿"，它有一个客户下了 $5000 万的采购订单，我们知道钱会流向哪里。 但一家瑞典公司，估值更小，却遍布太空、机器人、AI、消费电子等各个领域。
- English · 原文I said this before but I have high conviction in $SIVE. I'm confident their UC Berkeley + $LITE executive team knows what IP to acquire. Since they've worked with Ayar and others from the start. Also helps that 22% of their company are PHDs so entire team is cracked. CHIPS ACT, all these likely partnerships from $NOK to $AAPL also gives a ton of credibility to the IP moat they've built. They just lacked the funding before the recent market interest in Sivers. But I'm very interested to see what they can do from here.中文 · 翻译我之前说过，但我对 $SIVE 有很高的信心。 我有信心，他们那支来自 UC Berkeley 和 $LITE 的 executive 团队知道该收购哪些 IP。毕竟他们从一开始就和 Ayar 他们合作过。 再加上他们公司有 22% 的员工都是博士，所以整个团队非常厉害。 CHIPS 法案，再加上所有这些潜在的合作伙伴，从 $NOK 到 $AAPL，也给他们构建的 IP 护城河带来了极大的可信度。 在最近市场对 Sivers 产生兴趣之前，他们只是缺乏资金。但我非常期待看到他们接下来能有什么作为。
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